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  • Thank you Lily. Appetite control for me is key to losing weight. Hunger, on the other hand, is not so bad. I read that ghrelin stimulates lipolysis, it induces the production of growth hormone and stimulates anti-inflammatory pathways. So, going a bit hungry before your next meal seems healthy. Prolonged hunger, up to the point that you don't feel it anymore is bad. Lowers your metabolism and ups your stress hormones. I just posted a topic on food addiction in the general discussin. It's not only us, post-menopausal women suffering from food cravings.
  • Before menopause, I always managed to loose weight, whether by calory restriction, qi gong, or other fancy method. During and after menopause nothing of this worked anymore. Moreover, I grew 'on water' so to speak, meaning EVERITING I ate ended up in my middle region, sorry for the spelling. In the Netherlands we all have health insurance. I went to the national obesity center, and they advised bariatric surgery, which would be covered by my health insurance. I did't want that and opted for an esophagal balloon, which was not covered. In 7 months I lost 35 pounds. Then the balloon was removed. I took a short vacation of the diet, gained some weight and started low carb again and stabilized. I started the autoimmune variant of the paleo diet, which was good for me, but of little help in losing weight. I read Skye StJohn's book, but she doesn't give any background info. Since I took responsibility for my own health, I insist on knowing the why's and how's of any prescription, so I also bought and read Dave Asprey's book, whih I find impressive. It gives some extra's over Sarah Ballantyne and Terry Wahls. Ballantyne cautions against intermittent fasting, especially if you need to loose a lot of weight. Bulletproof coffee is supposed to be around the starvation and therefore stress-inducing part of the fasting, but there are publications indicating that ketosis in itself may prolong metabolic syndrome, leptin and insulin resistance and all. I suspect that a diet that is too low in carbs can induce heart palpitations and muscle cramps. Recently I stumbled upon the site of Dr Ray Mead, www.raymead.com which seems to provide a lot of missing puzzle pieces for me. Still reading and digesting.
  • Maureen....I can't find anything on Dr. Ray Mead....did by chance you mean Dr. Ray Peat?  At this website http://raypeat.com/about.shtml.

  • Sorry, Ray Peat. And you got the right website. Apparently, some readers have established a Peat Diet, which is totally bull, since Peat never offered such a thing. The only thing he does, is questioning so called established 'medical truths', using his own considerable expertise. The thing is that too many people think the human body is kind of a machine. Just search Pubmed, if you have some health problem, and bingo! Out comes a nummer of abstracts and by simple computional techniques, you can find the answer. Since you have at the very least a basic background in physiology, you'll know, that it is very important to go back to the primary reference and check the timeframe of the experiment. Substance A can have a response in the short run, and the opposite response in the long run. Most diets work great in the short run, but the long run? What I like about Peat, is that he knows his stuff and puts forward his question marks and possible alternative interpretations. I also like his focus on mitochondrial heath and energy regulation. Systems biology is considered a new and promising direction in basic biological research. And I think the reason that you and I follow this forum is our awareness, that population differences matter. What works for men doesn't work necessarily for women. Post-menopausal women are an entirely different subpopulation as well. Well, maybe not entirely, but different any way. We are all on a journey towards better health, trying this and that, finding out what works for us.
  • Hello to everyone here. I just discovered this forum for women over 60. Well I technically don't turn 60 for another couple of weeks, but really liked what I read here. A little about myself and BP. I started drinking the BP coffee back in October after watching an interview Dave did on Giam TV. I was really impressed with what he said but was very skeptical to try the coffee as I have never been able to drink coffee due to nausea and stomach cramping. But with all the benefits he talked about, I figured I would give it a try and if I couldn't drink it I would just give the coffee to a friend. Wow, was I surprised. I could actually drink coffee without feeling bad! Not a morning goes by without my coffee! First thing I noticed was a big improvement in my stamina during my every other day 4 mile run. I did not hit that "wall" about half way through.


    The next huge change, and I mean huge, was for me to go on the Bulletproof diet. I really did not need to loose any weight but simply wanted to tone up (especially my stomach area) and get some energy back that has been missing for the past year or so. Now the diet was a huge change for me because I have been a vegetarian for almost 20 years! The thought of eating animal flesh again was a big moral dilemma for me. But I had noticed more joint pain, fatigue, and I even developed a stress fracture in my foot last spring. It seemed like although I thought I ate very healthy and exercised regularly I was loosing ground, or something was missing. What a difference from October to now. So much more energy, less bloating, and less joint pain. Only problem is my sleeping, but I am wondering if I simply don't need as much as I used to.


    Anyway, I hope to return to this forum often and learn from all you wonderful women! (I hope I did not ramble too much.)  


    Lynn




  • Good to hear from you Lyn T. I really want to keep this thread going because this demographic usually wants to loose weight. I don't have any weight to loose having had a problem early 2014 and lost a lot in a hurry. My digestive system is slowly mending and having found BP coffee which I love and can tolerate having a lactose intolerance. I am just incorporating most of BP principles and Skye St John's work but IF makes me take weight off again (of course) I badly need to regain some muscle tone, I believe skinny fat is the term. I would like to know whether it is possible at my age.


    My hormones are probably out of whack too with some trouble sleeping and hot flashes which at 65 should be long gone I would have thought.


    Thanks everyone for the info.

    Kris
  • I'm finding that I'm having a lot more good days instead of tired days.  I did drop some weight, but I don't think it was anything other than water weight.  I really don't have much to lose. .. only 8-ish more pounds, but feeling good matters so much more to me now that I have it back. Maybe this is a better weight for me.  Who knows.   I figured that my body is still adjusting to everything bc it took me years of not eating right to create it.  At this point I'm staying away from the scale, and just following how I feel, and eat from the green part of the list of foods. 


  • Cruiser42Cruiser42 Want to look like this again - or BETTER!

    Hey Schoolmarm -


    how are you doing ?  I am on day 2 of the RFLP - and I have a mild case of the "keto flu" = listless and hungry - but I'm getting thru it -- Dave says that after a few days I should feel GREAT so I'm focusing on that --- I, too have about 70 pounds to lose.  I def. want to lose 50, then I'll reassess to see how I feel/look.


     


    I'm happy to see this forum, too - I spend a good deal of time on the womens forum - I'm almost 55 - and as we all know, we women get stronger as we stick together!!!!


     


    Best of luck to everyone!!!!


  • I'm not yet 60, but hope to be rockin' it long after that age. I'm 55, 5'4" (although at my last physical, I topped 5'5". Could I be growing?), and do not have weight to lose. My questions are about intermittent fasting. Dave recommends women over 40 add protein to their morning coffee, which I think interrupts IF. I want to add Maca, which has some protein in it. Will that also disrupt IF? Should I even care about fasting and weight loss if it's not an issue?


     


    Mostly, I'm all about the brain. My 81-year-old mother has zero short-term memory, but she's got me to care for her. I have no children (that I know of), so it's up to me to stay healthy and sharp as long as possible.


     


    Any thoughts on menopausal women intermittent fasting would be helpful!


     


    Thanks.


  • Hi SharonB


    We are the same age, but I got a few inches on you in height.  I love IF and do not use the protein in the morning.  I find that when I do, I get hungry earlier in the day.    I find that following  Skye St John's take on the BPD works best for me. It is designed for menopausal women.   I was doing okay on the BPD, but the NFFBFW was the ticket.  There is a thread in the women's forum dedicated to this protocol of Dave's diet. http://www.amazon.com/No-Fail-Fat-Burning-Women/dp/1500222801/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1423706402&sr=1-1&keywords=No+Fail+Fat+Burning+For+Women 


     


    Also, I did lose a few pounds when I started Skye's NFFBFW protocol, but my body leveled out.  Eat off the green side of the food list, eat when you are hungry, keep fats high and carbs low, and carb re-feed a day or two a week. 


     


     


     


    My father passed away from alzheimer's so, like you, brain health is a biggy for me.  I do find that I am more mentally sharp following IF and the BPD.


  • I just bought "No Fail Fat Burning..." and look forward to reading it. I'm so torn about IF at this point, especially after hearing Donna Gates and Dave Asprey sing the praises of collagen, but I can put the collagen into other things and eat my maca during the acceptable window.


  • That's what I do.   Just BPC in the a.m.  In the afternoon I'll have more BPC with the collagen added in.  I also add the collagen to some recipes. 


  • Cruiser42Cruiser42 Want to look like this again - or BETTER!
    edited February 2015


    I'm not yet 60, but hope to be rockin' it long after that age. I'm 55, 5'4" (although at my last physical, I topped 5'5". Could I be growing?), and do not have weight to lose. My questions are about intermittent fasting. Dave recommends women over 40 add protein to their morning coffee, which I think interrupts IF. I want to add Maca, which has some protein in it. Will that also disrupt IF? Should I even care about fasting and weight loss if it's not an issue?


     


    Mostly, I'm all about the brain. My 81-year-old mother has zero short-term memory, but she's got me to care for her. I have no children (that I know of), so it's up to me to stay healthy and sharp as long as possible.


     


    Any thoughts on menopausal women intermittent fasting would be helpful!


     


    Thanks.




     


    Hey SharonB!


    We have a LOT in common - no kids, caring for an 81 year old mother (in her defense, she's 80 until March 16th!). I will be 55 in March as well.   I do have a lot of weight to lose so we deviate paths there. I will say that my hot flashes have noticeably diminished since being BP.  YAY !!!!!


    Since there is a strong flavor of "tweaking" or "experimenting" on this plan, either Skye's or Dave's, maybe you should try each a couple of days.  Use protein for a day or two, then use nothing, then use Maca (gotta look that one up!), and document daily how you feel on each.  I've done similar tests and your body usually tells you what the right choice is.  If its helpful, as I understood Dave's suggestion to add protein, it was for women wanting to lose weight, but understanding the probability was high that overweight women are leptin resistant, and protein will help reset those levels.  If you don't have any weight to lose, maybe you're not leptin resistant at all !  If that is true, then you can ignore the protein.  Does that make sense ?  If not, let me know. 


     


    Good luck !!!!!


    Lisa


  • edited February 2015

    Thanks, Lisa. Truthfully, I just want the rock-hard abs that seem to come with IF. :)


     


    I am in a control group for a study that UCSF is doing on the effects of exercise on caregiver stress. While I think the results are going to be "duh!", I've agreed not to do any significant aerobic exercise for 6 months, after which I will be given a 6-month gym membership. Little do they know that all the adjustments I'm making in my eating and sleeping is having a profound effect.


     


    Since starting the Bulletproof Diet about a month ago, I have started sleeping through the night, for the first time in years! And last night, I dreamed of kittens!


     


    I'm not sure what's helping the most -- the high protein/low-carb diet, the magnesium, L-Theanine and tryptophan before bed, or the phenibut. I tried the Gaba Wave for the first time yesterday. A tiny amount on an empty stomach in the morning, and had to take a nap by mid-afternoon. I took a tiny bit more before bed, and as I said, dreamed about kittens. I wish I could use that one more often, but the warnings have me appropriately concerned.


  • dazdaz today is a good day ✭✭✭
    edited February 2015


    Since starting the Bulletproof Diet about a month ago, I have started sleeping through the night, for the first time in years! And last night, I dreamed of kittens!


    I'm not sure what's helping the most -- the high protein/low-fat diet...




     


    hi Sharon...don't know if that was a typo in your comment or not...the Bulletproof Diet is Not a high protein/low-fat diet


    fake it till you make it

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