Giving Up Alcohol

I am considering giving up alcohol completely. I generally only have a few drinks on the wkd when going out however since I have started bulletproof...ish diet and meditation, hrv. I have noticed a performance down ward trend in cognitive focus, energy and mood. Has anyone had positive experiences from a total alcohol ban? My worries are social interaction really, as society tends to revolve around drinking...at least in my world it does lol

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  • I gave it up entirely almost a year ago and dont miss it at all. When sober you quickly realize how stupid alcohol makes people.
  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    I haven't had a drink in months now. I find that booze messes with my cognitive performance and incites at least a day or two of GI distress. If you want to give it up but still go to bars and such, just get a glass of sparkling water. Most bars stock Perrier or something along those lines, I imagine?


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    I gave it up entirely almost a year ago and dont miss it at all. When sober you quickly realize how stupid alcohol makes people.




    I do miss the pleasant buzz, I admit. And around the time I decided to ditch it, I'd only just discovered craft beer. I adore a good, dark beer, but it claws up my insides haha. Not worth it.

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  • I definitely have had a positive experience with a total alcohol ban, but that was because I am an alcoholic. My relapse on the 4th of July this year went pretty well though. 


     


    If you can handle having only a "couple of drinks" on the weekends why not, someone developed activated charcoal, glutathione, NAC, and Vitamin C for a reason. 


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  • Drank a few times in my mid teens and decided that it isn't worth the drawbacks. 15 years of no alcohol at age 30 and totally happy with it. Wish more people could relate with me in this.
  • I appreciate everyone's feedback. I guess a self experiment is in the works one month total ban and then one month limited alcohol using vit c, activated charcoal and NAC. See how I do.

    Demonofchouka I know what you mean about craft beers! Oh and a decent Guinness !
  • katolotuskatolotus ✭✭✭
    edited August 2014

    I've never drunk and believe I've benefited greatly from not doing so. I have found it does effect your social life. Here in the UK drinking is almost total revolves around drinking and eating.


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    edited August 2014
    I don't drink much because in my experience it is the first step towards having a leaky gut, which greatly reduces performance and mood. It hasn't effected my social life much because I have lot s of energy without the alcohol to match the energy everyone else gains from drinking it. I use my time spent with drunks to let loose and be silly. It surprises me to find how many people think you need alcohol to do this ;)


    On a side note, what has greatly effected my social life is sleep hacking, no one is in a partying mood at 5am and I'm ko d by 9pm usually haha

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  • wow kato, never even tasted the nastiness that is alcohol?


     


    my parents drank more than i would have liked growing up, and so i've always had an aversion to the smell, the slurred speech, the dulled intellect, etc. i tried it maybe 3 or 4 times when i first got into consciousness-altering substances in my teens, i never had any horrible experiences with it or hangovers (i don't think i got drunk enough), but felt like it wasn't anything but a social lubricant really, and that doesn't interest me. it didn't enhance my enjoyment of music or make me feel more creative like other less socially-acceptable things. then i got into Robert Anton Wilson and learned about the 8 circuit model of consciousness and how alcohol is mostly oriented towards the "emotional-territorial" circuit, which is not the kinda mindset i want to focus on. then came Native American studies in college, where i learned how much alcohol and religion (my 2 least favorite drugs!) have done such an insane amount of damage to indigenous peoples. i've seen alcohol be the catalyst to a downward spiral amongst heroes of mine and people i care about. 


     


    I try not to let my aversion to this stuff cause me to have any less respect for people who do indulge, but i find it kind of frustrating and maybe even a symptom of the derangement of civilization that alcohol is socially sanctified, abstaining is looked down on as some party-pooping attitude, and responsible use of the more introspective, therapeutic, and creativity-enhancing substances is demonized or belittled into another party favor - like alcohol with a "scary" side effect of potentially confronting your own mind. Terence Mckenna's writings about how a society's attitudes towards drugs tells a lot about them makes a lot of sense to me. Humanity seems to be on a drunken/hyper-stimulated rampage. 


  • I have 2 weeks sober after deciding to quit for about the 3894th time because I too, am an alcoholic.  It's night and day.  I couldn't go 2 days and I've gone 2 weeks.  I've found by slamming enough water and iced green tea that I've found a substitute euphoria and it's working out just fine.  And I was a fucking MESS.  It will change your life, just try it.


  • I actually follow a mainly BP diet as a balance up to my love of craft beer.... I can't see myself ever giving it away but I will aim to cut back drinking as much as I can.
  • KateKate
    edited August 2014
    I gave up alcohol about 18 months ago and have absolutely no regrets. There is a transition period where your friends and family adjust but that's also an opportunity to see who supports you and who just wants you to fall in line with society's drinking norm.


    Overall I'm a much calmer person now. My skin doesn't flare as much, my emotions are more even and weekend mornings are much more pleasurable and productive!
  • SystemSystem mod
    edited August 2014

    I recently linked up with a close friend from HS, with whom I played football. We exchanged numbers, and a couple days later he texted me, inviting me to a pub to celebrate one of his friend's going away party.


     


    I texted him back, writing that I don't drink but that we could hang out some other time. He thought I was blowing him off and that I was lying about the part about not drinking.  :-|


  • pmrtnzpmrtnz Peter Martinez
    edited August 2014

    I gave up alcohol for about 3 months in March because of a rather messy weekend in Vegas that made me decide I was partying far too hard. It was truly a transforming three months.


    I relapsed when I decided to accept a temporary work transfer to Chicago from SF because I wanted to party it up with my friends, but now I'm 3 weeks clean again and starting to get that mental clarity back. I can already feel my sleep improving dramatically.


     


    Tim Ferriss actually hosted a challenge on his website for August called NOBNOM (no booze, no masturbation) which a lot people signed up for and some of them are reporting extraordinary changes in their quality of life. Here's what Tim reported.


     




     


    I did this for 30 days recently, and — oddly enough — I found it much easier and more impactful to quit booze for the same 30 days. Just a few of the benefits I experienced included…


    • A dramatic surge in free testosterone and sex drive. Dozens of my seemingly healthy male friends, techies in particular, have approached me over the years about chronically low testosterone. There are many potential causes, including late-night blue light, but removing booze and porn appear to open the flood gates. Research (exampleexample) shows that alcohol reduces testosterone levels. So…should you be dating more? Trying a little harder instead of wanking, watching Battlestar Galactica, and calling it a night? This will help motivate you.
    • Increased ability to focus and cognitive endurance. This goes along with increased “T” mentioned above.
    • Getting roughly 50-100% more done. When you aren’t nursing hangovers, chewing up 3-4 hours per night with friends, destroying your sleep with booze, or procrastinating with porn (you know who you are) — miracle of miracles — you get more done! A LOT more done. In my mind, this alone easily justifies a 30-day booze and porn fast. You’ll clear off that goddamn to-do list faster than Speedy Gonzalez.And remember: sex is still allowed.
  • I gave up 21 years ago because I couldnt handle the hangovers and fell into a social group that just didnt drink. Completely echo Katolotus' comments about not being a drinker in the UK. When I tell people I don't drink and haven't for almost the entirety of my adult life they expect an anecdote about me being a recovering alcoholic or some nonsense. I'm pretty anti-alcohol now, but for social, not health reasons. I suspect that a glass of red wine or a nice craft beer every now and then might have some health benefits and are probably better than the 20 year diet coke addiction that i only kicked very recently !

  • I go through phases where I purposely don't drink. I'll take a month or two and focus on some aspect of my diet. I've cut out a lot of the casual, after work drinks. Unless there's a girl there that I'm interested in, I just can't be arsed! So yeah, I haven't completely given up, and I doubt I ever will, but if I'm going to drink, I'll have a good reason for doing so.


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  • I mentioned recently, my decision to go tea total to a few close friends. It was amazing how many of them also expressed that they also would think about doing the same. It's almost as if we are imprisoned by alcohol. A substance that dulls the human race....or am I starting to move to much into the territory of conspircy theory!


  • I've never drunk and believe I've benefited greatly from not doing so. I have found it does effect your social life. Here in the UK drinking is almost total revolves around drinking and eating.




     


    I lived in the UK for a year when I'd given up alcohol. Man, the pressure they put on me to drink - they'd buy me drinks and put them in front of me in an effort to get me in on it. Once you've done a few nights out without alcohol, you realize you're having a better time without it. Having a clear head beats having a dull head any day :)

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  • I support anyone who decides not to drink. Just like the BP diet, it is not for everyone. The Bulletproof coffee buzz is different than the booze buzz and i'll continue to enjoy both.  Anything past two drinks reaches the point of diminishing returns. I see and feel the benefits of no booze but the positive experiences I've had with a few drinks is well worth it. I've made connections to interesting and great people, have had so many great laughs over a few drinks, and some ended up in some very fun situations. Looking back, some of the more defining moments did involve a few drinks. I'll never give it up but I do exercise a lot more moderation with it. 


     


    Cheers! 



  • I support anyone who decides not to drink. Just like the BP diet, it is not for everyone. The Bulletproof coffee buzz is different than the booze buzz and i'll continue to enjoy both.  Anything past two drinks reaches the point of diminishing returns. I see and feel the benefits of no booze but the positive experiences I've had with a few drinks is well worth it. I've made connections to interesting and great people, have had so many great laughs over a few drinks, and some ended up in some very fun situations. Looking back, some of the more defining moments did involve a few drinks. I'll never give it up but I do exercise a lot more moderation with it. 


     


    Cheers! 




     


     


    I'm more or less in this boat. -- I work in the investment industry in sales so as you can imagine, alcohol plays a bit of a role.--- Not like a 1950's Mad Men kind of role, but it's there.


     


    I still enjoy drinking but on a wayyyy lower scale these days. -- The hangovers just aren't worth it and I can't tell you how many times i've found myself standing around in a bar at 2am, $100 poorer for absolutely nothing. No meaningful conversation, and just a bunch of blabbering morons abound.


     


    Having said that, I'm not dead. --- I enjoy partying and living life to the fullest and will do so with a few occasional drinks/substances in relative moderation and bulletproof myself accordingly.


     


    As the great Hunter S. Thompson stated:


     



    "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”"

     


    I'd say I'm somehwere in between this and, thy body is thy temple.



  • I'm more or less in this boat. -- I work in the investment industry in sales so as you can imagine, alcohol plays a bit of a role.--- Not like a 1950's Mad Men kind of role, but it's there.


     


    I still enjoy drinking but on a wayyyy lower scale these days. -- The hangovers just aren't worth it and I can't tell you how many times i've found myself standing around in a bar at 2am, $100 poorer for absolutely nothing. No meaningful conversation, and just a bunch of blabbering morons abound.


     


    Having said that, I'm not dead. --- I enjoy partying and living life to the fullest and will do so with a few occasional drinks/substances in relative moderation and bulletproof myself accordingly.


     


    As the great Hunter S. Thompson stated:


     


    "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”"

     


    I'd say I'm somehwere in between this and, thy body is thy temple.




     


    Couldnt have said it any better myself! 

  • I had about 4 months off last yr and when it came to the social interaction I noticed a few things.


     


    When sober you feel kinda outside the bubble of the night.


    I found that I did get into the night but a lot later.


    To me that's what alcohol does it gets me to the point of "I belong" a lot quicker...


     


    My solution:


    I went out 3 times a week and made myself do some ridic things to make me not give a sh!t


    Like whooping and pretending im a bouncer (im 140 lbs) hi 5ing people... as weird as this sounds it made me feel really pumped and it makes you realise that nobody gives a sh!t.. this makes you relax when it comes to being social..


     


    Some of my craziest nights have been while not drinking... Drinking always makes me too introspective..


     


    I still drink but im beginning to wind it down, ive had some of my funniest times while drinking it can be a hell of a social tool, but theres a tradeoff that happens, that with work can be done while being sober.. Like who says sober has to be all shy and quiet, its still you doing it whether drunk of not.. its just flicking the right switches... Get your woo on!! :-)


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  • edited March 2015

    I am on day 40 of no alcohol after drinking pretty much daily for 10+ years, been drinking off and on for about 30 years so am going through a lot of changes, strangely I've also been interested in the bulletproof, mark sisson, tim ferris, biody by science kind of stuff but all the drinking just interfered with all of it of course, i did the whole30 diet the past 30 days and have also been as low carb as possible and have been a little disappointed with the speed of fat loss, I'm wondering if I should be going easy on the bulletproof coffee with all the fat in it since my liver has been stressed so badly?


     


    Also, have not seen much stuff from Dave on what to do for nutritional/psychological support for someone "sobering up" after years of drinking, if anyone here can point me to some good info on that I'd be very grateful :)


  • Aloha winton617, Dave Aspery has an article somewhere about hacking alcohol and an info-graphic about which alcohols are the best to worse based on toxins. I personally have never the hacks yet and although I hardly drink, I did change which alcohol I drink. Also, I find that on the Bulletproof diet, alcohol is metabolized much faster from my system giving me less negative effects.


     


    If you try using Dave's alcohol hacks, please let me know how it was!


     


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  • @winton617 said:
    I am considering giving up alcohol completely. I generally only have a few drinks on the wkd when going out however since I have started bulletproof...ish diet and meditation, hrv. I have noticed a performance down ward trend in cognitive focus, energy and mood. Has anyone had positive experiences from a total alcohol ban? My worries are social interaction really, as society tends to revolve around drinking...at least in my world it does lol

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    This was probably one of the hardest parts of quitting drinking. When your friends invite you out for a couple of drinks at a social outing. You do feel somewhat out of place if you're not drinking.

    But you do get used to it, you just need to learn how to have fun in the social interaction without the alcohol. I personally found myself drinking 3-4 times a week.

    Too much and was surprisingly tricky to stop, for me anyway. Old habits die hard I guess. There are a few different things you can do to tackle the social drinking hurdle.

    I personally found a few good articles and a book called going alcohol free forever that hit the nail on the head. You can read the Alcohol Free Forever Review for yourself if of interest - How To Stop Drinking

  • I think having a vision (i.e. goals) is a major key to overcoming or achieving anything.
    Think of all the time, money, energy, and opportunity taken away from yourself and those around you because of a given behavior. It really comes down to your overarching goals in life.

    I think something incredibly powerful for anyone struggling with anything (for example alcohol) is that your body is addicted to/craves alcohol, however you do not. YOU meaning your higher thinking and vision for your life.

    It's a matter of identifying what has power over you and breaking free of that thing

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