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  • Thats sounds great Karen, thanks for sharing your recipe, you inspired me to make something similar yesterday with coconut milk. I have some raw cacao powder here so used that and like you needed to sweeten it up a little bit to get that mocha taste. It was very satisfying and filling. Going to try that mocha this morning with the butter.
  • Skye I'm trying your protocol - started 10 days ago but had to go back to day 1 when I reached for the dark chocolate without thinking a few days ago.  Yikes!


     


    My question is can I do it without the BP coffee or tea?  My partner and I are trying to conceive.  In fact we are doing IVF which has caused me to gain a whole heap even though I eat 90% paleo/primal (my one processed food is a protein bar).  We have a few weeks until the next cycle starts so I want to shed the extra fat I'm storing due to hormones - BUT I am told not to have coffee/caffeine and even decaf feels wrong to me after detoxing in readiness for pregnancy.  I should mention I'm on DHEA and a whole bunch of supplements for increasing egg quality (ubiquinol, alpha lipoic acid, NAC, bovine colostrum, resveratrol, PQQ etc) and that I don't have any fertility issues aside from age.  I'm okay with fasting - was IFing up until my partner and I decided to go ahead and try for a child, and did so with zero caloric intake for 16-18 hours daily (and yeah I think my adrenals took the strain).


     


    I feel a bit stuck, and wonder if I'm trying to take on too much and should put this protocol on hold until we're done with IVF - and risk a pregnancy with more body fat than I want to start with and even more to lose at the end.  What would you do?  Or is there a modified version with no caffeine I could try? 




  • Skye I'm trying your protocol - started 10 days ago but had to go back to day 1 when I reached for the dark chocolate without thinking a few days ago.  Yikes!


     


    My question is can I do it without the BP coffee or tea?  My partner and I are trying to conceive.  In fact we are doing IVF which has caused me to gain a whole heap even though I eat 90% paleo/primal (my one processed food is a protein bar).  We have a few weeks until the next cycle starts so I want to shed the extra fat I'm storing due to hormones - BUT I am told not to have coffee/caffeine and even decaf feels wrong to me after detoxing in readiness for pregnancy.  I should mention I'm on DHEA and a whole bunch of supplements for increasing egg quality (ubiquinol, alpha lipoic acid, NAC, bovine colostrum, resveratrol, PQQ etc) and that I don't have any fertility issues aside from age.  I'm okay with fasting - was IFing up until my partner and I decided to go ahead and try for a child, and did so with zero caloric intake for 16-18 hours daily (and yeah I think my adrenals took the strain).


     


    I feel a bit stuck, and wonder if I'm trying to take on too much and should put this protocol on hold until we're done with IVF - and risk a pregnancy with more body fat than I want to start with and even more to lose at the end.  What would you do?  Or is there a modified version with no caffeine I could try? 




     


    Okay I've just gone back and read through all the posts up until you've gone on a digital detox/journey Skye - you seem to be a bit impatient with some questioner now so I guess I'll muddle through this on my own.  Thanks for the book though - after years of reading MDA's blog it is refreshing to see something just for women.


     


    Now if only there was a bio-hacking forum for fertility I'd be truly in my element :)

  • Hello all :)


    It's good to see another new person on this page, welcome Ubermama! Well today is my first post-carb-re-feed day (a mouthful in itself). As predicted, the scale shows I have gained a few pounds, but no worries for me, it's all part of the plan - right!? My muscles feel sore from my workout yesterday - even though it was only 25 min of working out with kettlebells and a few sprints thrown in for good measure. To answer your earlier question Leez I hadn't been lifting weights for a while before starting this program. I had done the kettlebell workout a couple of times before starting the NFFB program and I did feel a bit stronger yesterday when I did the workout, but that's all subjective. I wasn't measuring anything closely enough to say whether the 10 day carb depletion itself made a difference in my strength. 


    Ubermama - I haven't been through IVF myself but I've had a few friends who have done it. It seems to me like it's a bit of an emotional and physical rollercoaster - at least if it goes on for a while. I hope you and your husband/partner are successful on your first round! Regardless of whether you have a little extra fat at the start of your pregnancy or not a healthy baby and mama are the most important outcomes to my mind! Please take good care of yourself and don't sweat the small stuff too much. Do you think Dave's BP decaf would be alright for you? I guess the only other question I had was whether you have read Dave and his wife's book (is her name Lana???) "The better baby book" - they might answer some of your questions there.


    Take care!


  • Hi ladies! I'm going to catch up on this thread and probably read Skye's book. Just so I have the right mindset, it seems like this is closely related to the BP diet, but with variations designed for women?


    I sorted out and started the supplements this morning. hoping that helps balance out my energy a bit. :)


  • Hello all :)


    It's good to see another new person on this page, welcome Ubermama! Well today is my first post-carb-re-feed day (a mouthful in itself). As predicted, the scale shows I have gained a few pounds, but no worries for me, it's all part of the plan - right!? My muscles feel sore from my workout yesterday - even though it was only 25 min of working out with kettlebells and a few sprints thrown in for good measure. To answer your earlier question Leez I hadn't been lifting weights for a while before starting this program. I had done the kettlebell workout a couple of times before starting the NFFB program and I did feel a bit stronger yesterday when I did the workout, but that's all subjective. I wasn't measuring anything closely enough to say whether the 10 day carb depletion itself made a difference in my strength. 


    Ubermama - I haven't been through IVF myself but I've had a few friends who have done it. It seems to me like it's a bit of an emotional and physical rollercoaster - at least if it goes on for a while. I hope you and your husband/partner are successful on your first round! Regardless of whether you have a little extra fat at the start of your pregnancy or not a healthy baby and mama are the most important outcomes to my mind! Please take good care of yourself and don't sweat the small stuff too much. Do you think Dave's BP decaf would be alright for you? I guess the only other question I had was whether you have read Dave and his wife's book (is her name Lana???) "The better baby book" - they might answer some of your questions there.


    Take care!




     


    Thanks for the warm welcome Sans :)


     


    We finished our first round of IVF 12 days ago and weren't successful, but hardly anyone ever is so we are okay.  I did read Dave and Lana's book and have followed a lot of their advice.  I've tried emailing them about some of the supplements they suggested but got nowhere - the site for the book is looking a bit abandoned (my professional opinion as a content strategist!).  It would be great to have a community to share this journey with.  It IS stressful, and with two miscarriages in the past twelve months I've felt I need to be kinder to myself and have stopped fasting and allowed myself more 'comfort foods' (still 90% paleo).  8kg later, I feel horrible and don't look my best.  I have to find a way to do this (have a baby) and not destroy what I've worked so hard for (my healthy lean body).  Ah well :)  I shall keep working at it and dig deeper.  :)

  • Welcome, Ubermama. I say that, though I've only been here a couple of days myself! I realize this isn't the thread for pregnancy talk, but wanted to offer this reassurance: I was scrutinized during my pregnancy with regard to weight gain 'cuz I flunked my glucose tolerance test. I have my theories as to why that happened, but nevertheless, got put on the "risk" list, was outfitted with a glucose meter, and consider the whole headache quite fortuitous. I gained 21.5 lbs, delivered a 7.5 lb healthy boy, and was back in my jeans within two weeks. All of that I attribute to scrupulously monitoring sugar intake, reasonable exercise (not the intense OCD workouts I'd been up to before pregnancy), and NURSING. Nursing was very good for taking off weight! So perhaps relax a bit now? Continue to be kinder to yourself? I'm sorry round 1 didn't take, but that's not to say you won't be successful next round. We'll deal with your 8 kg or whatever after you've had your healthy baby.


  • Made it to DAY 3. Showing consistently "moderate" readings on the ketostix. Energy seems fairly even, though better in the AM. I was probably too active over the weekend, as the autumn leaves are falling like crazy and I have tons of oak trees. Trying to stay off the scale for another few days. Taking Betaine HCL with BPC #2, I'm used to drinking just one and adding in the second seemed to cause GI distress. Feeling energetic but not especially strong.

  • Lees, well done so far.  Are you taking pink salt in water?  It really helps the energy balance.




  • Lees, well done so far.  Are you taking pink salt in water?  It really helps the energy balance.




    Yes! I've been working my way up, probably take about 1/4 tsp every morning. It's very bubbly when added to San Pellegrino and it strikes me as more festive that way. In the flat water I felt like I was consuming a bodily fluid. Which I guess it kind of is.

  • How is everyone doing?  I'm thinking of weighing on Friday as it is the start of the month and it will be 21 days.  I was thinking of waiting until the whole month is up, but I'm getting curious.




  • How is everyone doing?  I'm thinking of weighing on Friday as it is the start of the month and it will be 21 days.  I was thinking of waiting until the whole month is up, but I'm getting curious.




    DAY 5 almost over, so far so good. Looking forward to a workout tonight. Training on DAY 1 was not great, the caffeine seemed to bother me and my strength was off.


     


    How are you feeling? And how much of a difference have you felt after a carb re-feed? I am kind of dreading it. It will be interesting to see what the scale tells you on Friday, if you decide to do it.

  • I'm feeling really good.  I don't like the feeling if I drop below 25g of carbs, so just a little more suits me and the mocha helps alot.  The first 10 days was tough because it is so strict and life gets in the way, so I'm not sure how realistic that it is to do unless you are in complete control of your own environment.  I had to re-start a couple of times.   I do feel bloated still though but it could be the MCT.  I think I really need to give it a whole month to be fair - probably even 6 weeks.  It might be my imagination, but my clothes seem to be fitting a little better.  I like the idea of HiiT rather than chronic cardio etc and I have enjoyed what I have done so far.


     


    In the background I have this morning submitted some saliva for hormone testing.  It's really hard for me to lose weight compared to others and I want to double check there is nothing else going on. 







  • Plantains = higher starch content. Please look at pages 34, 54 about safe starches,  timing.  Pgs 54-56 about feeding window. It is all right there. All these answers are right there in the book.If they are truly not clear, please email me directly at the address on the first page.


    Please look here . You need to determine these things for you. Weight loss? Who cares about weight loss? Start caring about fat lossFat loss - yes. Weight loss - depends. Ever heard of skinny fat? Most women's weight loss means muscle along with fat and that still means metabolic derangement. Let's learn to deal with our bodies one on one. Our bodies are not an outside entity. Look at it. Measure your circumference. I wrote that book so I don't have to repeat myself. Don't count anything -- calories, grams, just eat clean f-ing food! When you train, train hard. That's right, the workouts maybe be only 4 minutes, But they better be the most gut wrenching, puke producing four minutes of your life. Don't come on here and whine about how we're not losing fat when we say the workouts are too easy and we're eating cookies, drinking, etc,.


     


    Quit wasting the time of those who are serious and committed to get it done. There are women here who are leaving nothing behind. Others only have the energy to make excuses. What say you? Who are you going to be today? You're mindfucking yourselves if you think half-assing anything is going to get you to anywhere beyond average. I have no other way to put it.


     


    Going on a digital detox and out of the country. I think this forum is great and awesome for those who want to keep sharing their science and discoveries. It's what we all need to do. I realize numbers, weights and measurements make us feel safe because it gives us something to compare ourselves to. It helps us find a north star. Be your own north star.


     


    Please email me at the address in the book if you have a serious question about the protocol and if it's something not already addressed here. Keep on rocking.Fuck the foggy science. Eat as nature intended, not as Wall Street determined.




    Skye - I hope your digital detox is going well! Sometimes it can be hard to tell how something was intended when READ and not HEARD, but I am a bit taken aback reading your last post. I was not trying to make you repeat yourself, nor was I trying to waste "the time of those who are serious and committed to getting it done". Those phrases seem attacking, and I did not write anything that was meant to put you on the offensive. I do think we got our signals crossed about the fat loss - the only thing I said about it was that 1) people were talking about it, and 2) a question about glucose/fructose ratios. I am also not the only one who has written posts other than those intended to share science, (most of the posts ehre are personal updates - which I think is fine) and I have done my best to contribute, to offer advice to those reading this thread in whatever limited capacity I can at this point in my training. I have done nothing malicious, and not spoken to anyone as impatiently as you have done to me in the response above. I get tough love, and we all need a reality check from time to time, but I felt like tough love morphed into criticism. Everyone here, including myself, deserves to be treated with kindness. I am - and we ALL are! -  immensely appreciative of the time you have spent responding, and I had no intention of you feeling like you are wasting your time here!


     


    Karen g -  I notived that you said the chocolate made you feel better. As i have previously mentioned, I have been investigating chocolate cravings. Tyrosine - one of the amino acids in chocolate - may benefit you, as might phosphatidylcholine - I am NOT a doctor! but I have been looking into this myself :) I am curious to try your recipe! it sounds delicious!


     




    WELCOME ubermama, leez, and tammybites!


     


    I have been trying to not focus on fat loss, using the plan for energy and mental clarity...but now i am curious!!! does anyone have a method of keeping circumference measurements precise??? How are you supposed to know if you are keeping the string/measuring tape perpendicular the whole way around, and measuring in the exact same place every time? it seems very imprecise to me. (If only i had the cash for a dexa scan... one day!!!)


     


    my update is that i have been trying to make my own ghee and failing. Miserably. Tips anyone? I also notice that i feel fine in my fasting window - not hungry - but once I eat I feel the urge to nosh throughout the afternoon, NO MATTER how much I eat, an hour later I feel I need a boost.


     


    I hope you all are having a great evening! keep up the good work :)

  • also karen g - I was wondering if you have had your thyroid tested by a doctor who specializes in that kind of thing - NOT an endocrinologist, but a an MD who keeps up with the most recent thyroid literature and special tests


  • Hi Whiteelephant.  I actually do take  L-tyrosine in the morning.  I was suffering with mild depression earlier this year and I found it helpful with a number of other aminos which I no longer take.  However I still take the tyrosine as it gives me a bit of get up and go.  However this way of eating seems to help that anyway.


    I have not had a thyroid test done as yet.  I have just had a basic saliva test done for estrogen, progesterone, testosterone DHEA-S and morning cortisol.  Trying to keep costs in mind.    I can't help you on ghee I'm afraid.  However on impulse control, read The Chimp Paradox, it might help you think about managing what is going on in your mind when you start eating http://www.amazon.com/The-Chimp-Paradox-Management-Confidence/dp/039916359X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414647100&sr=8-1&keywords=chimp+paradox


  • I'm due my first carb refeed tomorrow after the 10 day carb depletion and its kind of daunting, I can eat rice dammit! I'm eating clean quite well according to Skye's book but not the exercise bit really unfort, legs are still a bit tender so waiting till next week before starting any explosive type exercise.


    I'm back to cycling which is not very BP but it's the cheapest and quickest way for me to get to work, max altogether 40 mins per day, 10km. Not a very challenging cycle either, mostly flat. Apart from that I sit down all day in work so it's good to get moving in some way.


    will keep going for the 21 days, halfway through already and then see where I'm at.


  • I'm due my first carb refeed tomorrow after the 10 day carb depletion and its kind of daunting, I can eat rice dammit! I'm eating clean quite well according to Skye's book but not the exercise bit really unfort, legs are still a bit tender so waiting till next week before starting any explosive type exercise.


    I'm back to cycling which is not very BP but it's the cheapest and quickest way for me to get to work, max altogether 40 mins per day, 10km. Not a very challenging cycle either, mostly flat. Apart from that I sit down all day in work so it's good to get moving in some way.


    will keep going for the 21 days, halfway through already and then see where I'm at.




    Let us know what happens after the refeed. I'm really not looking forward to mine, but understand the "why" of doing it.


     


    I have not gone near a heavy barbell since getting started on the program (nervous about that), and I haven't gotten on the scale; but things are looking sharper in the mirror already and energy is good. I am getting lots of relief by taking the Betaine HCL with the BPC.


     


    CocoaCat, I used to cycle to work back in the old NYC days! It was so good for my head. My job is exceptionally sedentary, I've been trying to implement this program and recruit co-workers to do it too. Every little bit helps, I think.

  • karen g - thanks for the book recommendation! i will definitely check that out tomorrow. looks interesting. If you have insurance and can find someone in network, getting a thyroid test can be cheap - just your normal co pay. I see that you are in CA - if you are within driving distance of San Diego or LA (and SF im sure, but i dont have any names of anyone up there) there are some great people. I know that people with hypothyroid report improvement with l tyrosine. and as im sure you know, depression and hypothyroid go hand in hand. 


     


    leez - what kind of difference did you notice after adding the betaine hcl with the bpc? im also curious to know how much you take, relative to the amount of butter and mct in your coffee. also, are you chugging your coffee or sipping it over several hours and taking the betaine hcl with your first sip?


     


    anyone else benefiting from the betaine hcl?

  • Hello fellow BP fat-burners,


    Just read through a few of the latest posts, so a few of my thoughts on what stood out to me. The results of the carb refeeds can be a little intimidating, esp if weight loss is one of your goals. So far I have found that I do gain a bit of weight/bloat the day after a re-feed but between two and at the most 3 days after I am back down to where I was before the re-feed if not lower. I'm trying to look at it as necessary to take a step 'back' every now and then so I can keep taking steps 'forward'.


    Re. making ghee - I googled making your own ghee and followed the instructions for one site that looked particularly helpful to me. I wish I could recall the site but I can't. I left the page open the first time I made ghee and checked it frequently to make sure I was following the steps correctly and that my ghee-in-process looked like it was supposed to (photos really helped there). After the first time I made it and got the jist of it down I can now make it while I am cooking other things so I don't just have to babysit my ghee. It does require frequent attention though! Do not walk away from it once you've started the process! Kerrygold really does make the best ghee from what I've tried to far, it ends up this beautiful, almost flourescent yellow once it's cooled. Making your own is cheaper than buying it, and the ghee is probably better too.


    It's good reading all of your posts, gives me a little boost and helps me stay on track...we're not doing this alone!


    Overall I'm feeling good, I seem to be getting the results I'm looking for. I still need to buy a scale that measures body fat...my husband is not thrilled that I have been spending more $ at the grocery store and farmers market on all this grass fed and free range meat...although he has said he can't argue with the results and he has watched some podcasts and educational stuff about BP diet/eating paleo and it's health benefits, so he's on board with that too, he just winces every time he sees a receipt. So I'm waiting a bit before I order the scale...just spreading out the spending a bit ;) I am still struggling with the morning salt...yuck! It makes me want to vomit, which is not my favorite way to start the day. I have tried putting it in mineral water, that helps. I also tried drinking it with a straw, that helps too. Nothing has completely stopped my gag reflex with the salt water, maybe I'll get used to it over time.


    Take care and stay strong!




  • karen g - thanks for the book recommendation! i will definitely check that out tomorrow. looks interesting. If you have insurance and can find someone in network, getting a thyroid test can be cheap - just your normal co pay. I see that you are in CA - if you are within driving distance of San Diego or LA (and SF im sure, but i dont have any names of anyone up there) there are some great people. I know that people with hypothyroid report improvement with l tyrosine. and as im sure you know, depression and hypothyroid go hand in hand. 


     


    leez - what kind of difference did you notice after adding the betaine hcl with the bpc? im also curious to know how much you take, relative to the amount of butter and mct in your coffee. also, are you chugging your coffee or sipping it over several hours and taking the betaine hcl with your first sip?


     


    anyone else benefiting from the betaine hcl?




    I am up at 4:50 am during the week and have the water/probiotic first thing. I have BPC #1 @ around 5:30, 1 Tbsp butter/1tbsp Brain Octane. That one goes down just fine without the Betaine HCL. It's the BPC #2 that I make at work around 9:30 that makes me queasy. I take 1 capsule of Thorne Betaine HCL/Pepsin with the first sip and it somehow takes the "yeesh" out of the second coffee. I wouldn't say I chug it, but I do drink it within 15 minutes. I can't stand it to be too cold, plus there's the factor of the co-worker passerby who catches a glimpse of my odd looking beverage and wants to know what the heck it is. I really don't want to go into details with anyone (except youse guys) about this experiment, I'm still collecting data. BPC#2 combined with a hectic work day get me through to 1 pm when I eat lunch. Twice I have made a third one (or actually, half a third one) @ 2 pm to get me through an afternoon slump.

  • I think I'll get on the scale tomorrow morning. Karen G, did you? I also think I'll need to break protocol a little, tomorrow is partner WOD day @ Crossfit and I haven't seen my partner all week (and she's had a bad week, so I don't want to blow her off). I know I'm not scheduled to train til Monday (plus the dreaded refeed), but I'm going to give it a shot. It will be interesting to see if all my worries about losing strength are legit or not. Also, I may need to spend all Sunday doing heavy yard work (freekin leaves!). I have maintained consistently "moderate" ketostix readings and want to continue. Maybe eat more butter and avocado to fuel throughout the day?


     


    One thing I've noticed so far is the complete absence of morning joint soreness the last several mornings. Even in my bothersome shoulders. Not certain if it's due to easing back on training or lack of inflammation or both. :grin:


  • Gonna weigh tomorrow morning.  It's re-feed day tomorrow too.  I'm more interested in my BF % though.


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  • Leez,  good to hear you are feeling and looking sharper.  I must look into the betaine hcl, Im hesitant to spend any more on supplements, I can be a bit of supplement junkie and seem to spend a ton at the  health food shop but I find the bp coffee a little hard to stomach.  Bp mocha tho has me hooked! Interesting e book there, I seem to get doubly tight shoulders and neck because of my posture on the bike and sitting down at a keyboard all day.  Going to start weekly massages for a couple of weeks cos my back is so knotted! 


     


    my carb reefed was a little bit uneventful, ended up in a chinese restaurant last night for some mediocre szechuan beef and veg but heres the good part, there was rice!!  Now I can have it every 3 days now it seems.  Unfort I don't weigh myself so can't give concrete measurements on if I gained water weight etc but Im not feeling too bloated. Still eating BP on the green side as much as possible.  Im feeling better about the whole diet now, the first week of the carb depletion was hard cos I wasn't that prepared but now Im just loving that I can throw butter into steamed cauliflower and not feel guilty or gain a spare tyre because of the fat cos everything else is so clean.


     


    Last night went to the cinema and didn't indulge in the popcorn and chocs like i normally do. Husband had it with diet coke but I had a big bottle of water to keep me satisfied and gave me something to do with my hands. 


     


    3rd weekend in a row without alcohol, even though Im not drinking during the week Im highlighting weekend because that is quite the challenge for me to not hit the chocs and white wine on a Friday night.  I can't say Im having any less fun without it.  I totally enjoy waking up without feeling groggy on sat and sun mornings. In relation to Skye's 21 day protocol Im now 12 days in so I could have a drink in 9 days time if I want to, but will I want to is the question? 

  • Awesome CocoaCat! It's great to hear about your progress! It's amazing how satisfying water can be instead of popcorn and soda once you see the results - right!? If you don't mind me chipping in my 2 cents I would say no to the alcohol...have a piece of super-dark chocolate instead (assuming you're a chocolate lover) and s-a-v-o-r that chocolate! A bite of dark chocolate has become my new treat on this plan...yum :D


  • One month since I started BP and just over 21 days since I started Skye's protocol.  The net result is 1lb loss and 1.5% body fat.  To say I'm gutted on the weight loss front is an understatement, but I am pleased with the BF result.  Going to give it another month but so far it is as much of a grind as any other regime.


  • Question re BRANDS- what do you ladies use for the various supplements & even the coffee?

    I haven't invested in the Dave Asprey versions - just using what I find @ Whole Foods/ etc.

    Those who've tried a variety of brands - what works? What to look out for? What do you swear by (or swear against)?


    I've been doing this for 6 weeks and have had some cheats (almost all alcohol); but generally have dramatically reduced my alcohol & sugar consumption, as well as dairy & bread products - I've lost a few lbs and feel good. Best- my skin is seriously glowing. I had some cheese, & next day a massive spot... So there you have it.

    I may go back to the 10-day initial carb depletion because my fat loss has slowed with every mistake (duh).

    I've found travel and work dinners with fixed menus the hardest (I do both a lot); and I haven't really exercised perfectly because I only can in the mornings and love (miss) my BarMethod classes (so have just gone back to them because they feel so darned good).

    Karen G - take heart & stick with it; perhaps fiddle with the supplements; timing of eating things?

    Love this forum - thank Skye for writing the book and all y'all for chatting about doin' the protocol here :-)
  • I'm using BP coffee both caf and decaf. I shop in whole foods so get everything from there or the Vitamin Shoppe

    Kerrygold or fond o foods German butter

    Epic bars

    Salmon ranch pastured duck eggs

    Applewood farm bacon

    Taylor's broccoli slaw

    Raw organic Balinese cacao powder

    Green leaf stevia

    Lindt 90%

    Supplements. Am away at the moment so need to check the brands when I get back. Jarrow is one of the brands. I buy the MCT glutathione and upgraded charcoalfrom the BP site but buy everything else locally.


  • One month since I started BP and just over 21 days since I started Skye's protocol.  The net result is 1lb loss and 1.5% body fat.  To say I'm gutted on the weight loss front is an understatement, but I am pleased with the BF result.  Going to give it another month but so far it is as much of a grind as any other regime.




    Are you close to your goal weight?  One thing, when you lose it slowly it not likely to reappear.  As long as your sleeping well and losing that's an accomplishment to be proud of.  Losing weight for me usually means some sleep disturbance which leads to a viscious circle.  This is not the case when following the BP protocol with proper refeeds every third day for me.  Focus on being healthy rather than numbers.  Thanks for the menu sharing as well.  Today my lunch consisted of :


    one soft boiled egg


    a large spinach salad with a dosh of Dijon/Coconut cream for a dressing


    1/2 an avocado


    Cooking a roast beef for supper with another salad


    BP ice cream for dessert (small serving)


    Also did salt water this morning


    Looking forward to refeed day tomorrow.  Not weighing for another week yet. 

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