Confused About The Basic Bp Diet Vs. If ? Please Help!

Hi - I've read nearly EVERY page on this site/forum and maybe i'm missing something completely.... however HOW exactly do you do the basic "bulletproof diet"? The PDF tells you what foods to eat and it's clear how to make the coffee. However.....



Is the normal diet just eating the foods and drinking the coffee whenever? Or is it only drinking BP coffee all day for 3-5 days, then carb loading one/two days (i think that the fast version thought)? I don't get the on/off days since it says nowhere that I can find the "structure" of the diet. Where does the "carb" load days come in?



Then... Intermittent Fasting is drinking BP in the morning and ONLY eating BP green foods between 2-8pm. For as many days in a row as you like?? OR do you need a break? It doesn't say.



Then the super fast weight loss is another story and that is very clear.



....I want to do some version of this - in fact i did the IF the last 2 days and really liked the fasting until 2pm w/ the BP coffee in the AM. Luckily, I've eaten similarly for the last 2.5 mos, so the "food" part of the diet is the easy part for me, its figuring out the how/structure!!



Since I want to loose about 5-10 lbs - what is the best way to do this?



Please advise!
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  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭
    Standard: no timing, eat from BP list, BP coffee as you want/need.

    "IF": breakfast - BP coffee; feeding window ~6h.



    Carb refeeds come into play if you eat a carb restricted diet (will happen the stricter you go and the more fruit/nuts/rice/potatoes you cut), so then every 4-5 days you add some starch in the evening like sweet potatoes or sometimes rice. If you are not as strict and regularly have fruits and such, then they don't matter that much.



    Your best bet will probably be the "IF" variant.
  • This is actually not going to be an answer to your question - rather, I'd like to thank you for posting your question! I, too, have been rather confused about the 'structure' of the BP diet. In my case though, it made perfect sense, since I did NOT read every single page of this website, nor did I listen to every podcast. I am running two businesses and have a lot going on, so my goal was to find as much information as quickly as possible image/icon_e_smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />

    However, for me (as opposed to you), the food part really is a major problem. I am NOT looking forward to cooking anymore. I can't even look at meat without feeling repulsed. I have run out of ideas of what to prepare for lunch/ dinner. Would you be willing to share what meals you typically eat? I'd be grateful for meal ideas. I used to be a vegetarian (for 28 years), and then a raw foodist. The staple ingredients of my former diet are a big 'no-no' on the BP diet, along with the way they are/were prepared. Would LOVE your input and ideas!
  • edited December 2012
    My best advice is start paleo. Once you have eating paleo figured out its much easier to optimize your diet to bulletproof levels. BP is just the paleo diet with toxin sources kept carefully in mind. Its impossible to take it all in at once and do it all at once. There is also a lot of information in the podcasts so check those out too if you have not.



    For information on IF check out www.leangains.com. Daves methods are just like his only with BPC in the AM. He has a lot more information on fasting than is provided through here.
  • Here are my two cents... I get the feeling that issue is the word 'diet'. I might be totally off base here and please correct me if I got the gist of your question wrong, nattyfish.





    But Diet doesn't mean Fad Diet that you only do for a short period of time loose (or gain) x number of pounds. Diet in the context of BP Diet means food that you eating to live over the long term to provide optimal health (and optimal body weight will follow). Dave provides basic guides for everyone to make better food choices and since it so radically different what what the fast majority of us do for food it feels like the arsenal of recipes and food choices that we have built up over our lifetime (or longer if you count recipes that have been passed down and you grew up with) has just been taken away from us so we are left to the mercy of what seems like a limited food and cooking methods.



    I have been been trying to take all the food that I used to cook and make them BP which is a very big challenge but so far I have found that the effort has paid off in spades since I feel so much better. I kind of went into this as a hopeful skeptic but the results have been very promising plus I have learned more about nutrition in the past 2 months that I ever hoped to learn in my life not only from Dave but from all of the guests and information in the podcasts.



    Now having said all of that and congrats for making this far. I would have to say it is very hard to recommend the best way for you to loose 5-10 lbs. I say that because we don't know where you are coming from. Here is what I mean... How much body fat you have? how much exercise you currently do? Are you your ideal weight? What if you are under weight and going BP might make you gain weight? Are you stressed so your cortisol levels are high? Are you not sleeping enough? I might be over thinking is but from everything I've learned here there is a lot to consider.



    Sorry this isn't a real answer to your question, but I kind of couldn't help myself.
  • WOW! Thanks guys - I just got home and am so happy to see these quick responses.



    Suntoucher - that really helps clarify - especially the "standard" portion of the diet and the carb re-feeds. i agree that the IF is probably my best bet for now and after 3 days of it i'm finding it quite easy. we'll see how i do on sat/sun when i'm not working all day and easily distracted from food! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    Sunny66 - glad i'm not the only one with questions about the basics! As for the food portion - i don't mind some meat like chicken & occasionally bison, but find i eat a lot of fish these days and Fage yogurt (full fat) - I have been switching my diet over to a Paleo-like diet (like Mark suggested) for the last few months and really like it. I'm not strict paleo b/c i do some dairy, but only some like ghee, yogurt and goat cheese. I haven't paid much attention to all the toxin stuff that BP talks about so that is new for me, though I try to eat organic and whatnot. My saving grace for recipes has been pinterest! type in paleo or primal or whatever and you'll have a ton that you can modify based on your likes and can probably make it work.



    Mark - looking at that website to learn more about the fasting!



    Len - where do I start - you're right there are SO many factors. The last few years has been really tough health-wise but that's woken me up to taking better care of my body. After moving back to the US from overseas, I got chronically ill and I attribute it to my diet here amongst other things. i had kidney and bladder infections all the time then i was in a car accident that left me with a traumatic brain injury, ptsd, neck/ack issues, migraines etc... needless to say my immune system was shot....and i was only 31. I educated myself as much as possible, trying to do everything holistically and avoid western meds. I eventually got tested for food allergies and found out i had massive candida overgrowth - from the rounds of antibiotics they put me on for the kidney infections... so beginning of 2012 i started an anti candida diet - so basically veggies and lean meat with NOTHING on it....tough. but it helped. i also was taking Reliv, a whole food supplement shake to help rebuild my immune system. I've slowly gotten much better over the last year and have tried so many new things. Most recently I did the HCG diet to loose some weight I had put on throughout all this - so I lost about 15lbs. I'm currently about 10-15lbs over my ideal weight. I weight about 140 w/ 25/26% body fat and am 5'5. i have eaten sugar/grain/gluten-free for about 3 months now and really like it. My doctors are working with me to get my sleep regulated as i have a hard time with that since the accident. also, the ptsd/brain injury doesn't allow my nervous system to fully relax very often, so i imagine my cortisol/stress level are quite high on a regular basis. Oh - and I'm not looking to this as a fad diet at all. I'm truly looking for a new way of living that helps my body heal so I can get back to feeling vital and amazing!!! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    I think that sums it up... any further suggestions are MOST welcome! Thank you!
  • Hey NattyFish,



    Wow you have a lot going on and Sorry you have to deal with so much but I am very happy that you have decided to 'fix' yourself. I have has similar realization with my self too I had candida overgrowth and I though it was the reason behind my eczema. I started devouring all the information on Dave's site about 2 months ago, started going BP 6 weeks ago and have been completely BP with BPIF for about a month. While my eczema isn't completely gone, my sugar addiction is along with with my brain fog, and that blah feeling. I was also running 50 miles a week (yes a week) my sunday run was an 18mi run to the beach and back home. So I got my weight down to 165 and I bounce around +/- 4 lbs and I am 6'3" at 11% body fat. I don't run anymore because I wanted to see what would happen to me just by going BP and I really want to rebuild my body and fix all my issues. My weight doesn't bounce around anymore and I am about 172 now and I am still at 11% body fat (and still gaining). I have have WellnessFX panel done and get another one done next week to see how my levels are now. I am going to post a question about my eczema probably later today to see if some of the awesome people here have any insight thoughts or comments about what I am doing and/or should be doing.



    I had to look up the hCG diet because I never heard of it (actually I kinda heard of it but not enough to know it by name) Honestly, It worries be but I just haven't read enough to actually say anything intelligent about it. I recommend seeing if you could get your some of your test results for doctor or asking to run a hormone panel for cortisol. I bought a emWave too to help with stress maybe it will help with PTSD too. I seems to remember Dave talking about this at one point I will see if I can find it. If you cannot get your test results from your doctor maybe you can get test from wellnessFX it is a great test to start with but I think I am going to use myMedLab to do some other panels for my thyroid and nutritional tests. I believe myMedLab does hormone tests as well, so you might check them out.



    Dave just did 2 posts on sleep and I would start out so they might help you greatly. I almost forgot your vitamin D might be low and that can inhibit sleep. you should get your vitamin D up to about 70-90 ng/mL that should help with your sleep taking abut 1000 IU/25 lbs (of your body weight) in the morning is what is recommended. A wellnessFX will help figure out what the right about is for you but this should be a safe starting point.
  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭
    edited December 2012
    Len - where do I start - you're right there are SO many factors. The last few years has been really tough health-wise but that's woken me up to taking better care of my body. After moving back to the US from overseas, I got chronically ill and I attribute it to my diet here amongst other things. i had kidney and bladder infections all the time then i was in a car accident that left me with a traumatic brain injury, ptsd, neck/ack issues, migraines etc... needless to say my immune system was shot....and i was only 31. I educated myself as much as possible, trying to do everything holistically and avoid western meds. I eventually got tested for food allergies and found out i had massive candida overgrowth - from the rounds of antibiotics they put me on for the kidney infections... so beginning of 2012 i started an anti candida diet - so basically veggies and lean meat with NOTHING on it....tough. but it helped. i also was taking Reliv, a whole food supplement shake to help rebuild my immune system. I've slowly gotten much better over the last year and have tried so many new things. Most recently I did the HCG diet to loose some weight I had put on throughout all this - so I lost about 15lbs. I'm currently about 10-15lbs over my ideal weight. I weight about 140 w/ 25/26% body fat and am 5'5. i have eaten sugar/grain/gluten-free for about 3 months now and really like it. My doctors are working with me to get my sleep regulated as i have a hard time with that since the accident. also, the ptsd/brain injury doesn't allow my nervous system to fully relax very often, so i imagine my cortisol/stress level are quite high on a regular basis. Oh - and I'm not looking to this as a fad diet at all. I'm truly looking for a new way of living that helps my body heal so I can get back to feeling vital and amazing!!! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Check out "Trauma Release Exercise" by Berceli for PTSD. It is the best (albeit a very weird exercise) I have ever found for that kind of thing (and I don't even have a trauma). 30 mins a day for a month should take care of most of it. It even does wonders for "normal" people too (no such thing, I know).


  • Look into Check out "Trauma Release Exercise" by Berceli for PTSD. It is the best (albeit a very weird exercise) I have ever found for that kind of thing (and I don't even have a trauma). 30 mins a day for a month should take care of most of it. It even does wonders for "normal" people too (no such thing, I know).




    I found some links on youtube like that talks about David Berceli's work. This reminded me of an interview I just listened to on friday about something very similar from the Underground Wellness radio show. Dr Robert Glazer is interviewed by Elliott Hulse on bioenergetics :

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/undergroundwellness/2012/08/10/the-strongest-version-of-you-w-elliott-hulse-and-dr-glazer.



    Elliott has an blog page that lists 5 streches at www.bioenergizers.net[font=HelveticaNeue,].[/font] that he says will release emotion and I think they work. I only just started doing them but it is definitively weird stuff and I like it image/icon_mrgreen.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mrgreen:' />
  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭
    edited December 2012
    'Len' wrote:


    I found some links on youtube like that talks about David Berceli's work. This reminded me of an interview I just listened to on friday about something very similar from the Underground Wellness radio show. Dr Robert Glazer is interviewed by Elliott Hulse on bioenergetics :

    http://www.blogtalkr...-and-dr-glazer.



    Elliott has an blog page that lists 5 streches at www.bioenergizers.net. that he says will release emotion and I think they work. I only just started doing them but it is definitively weird stuff and I like it image/icon_mrgreen.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mrgreen:' />
    TRE is different - it's involuntary once it gets going, the stretches are there only to fatigue the muscles. Supposedly the tremoring releases any tension stored in the psoas (where "trauma primarily gets stored"). I did it for a while and after after a few weeks I noticed curious impact in social situations. Certain things just didn't bother me anymore, and it was obvious that something changed. I figured that the reason it works is that it somehow removes generalized anchors (think NLP). It was primarily developed for PTSD while he was stationed in some war zone - it comes from the real world as opposed to some shady ebook.
  • Thanks guys! I will check these out further. I'm currently in PTSD Therapy and we do a lot of EMDR and EFT. He's recommended "cook's hookup" to help calm the nervous system. I'm always game for more info!
  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭
    edited December 2012


    Thanks guys! I will check these out further. I'm currently in PTSD Therapy and we do a lot of EMDR and EFT. He's recommended "cook's hookup" to help calm the nervous system. I'm always game for more info!
    Cook's hookup comes from the "Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden. There's this huge book called exactly that if you want to go that route.
  • Nattyfish,

    EMDR and EFT are amazing tools that should really address emotional AND physical issues around the traumatic events you experienced. I had a client who also had brain injuries and PTSD due to two very bad accidents and a very abusive childhood. Her brain specialist as well as the psychologist she saw couldn't believe the differences in her - physicallly, behaviorally, mentally and emotionally. Even Gary Craig, the founder of EFT, contacted her because he wanted to interview her for his film - which she declined only because she was told that she wasn't allowed to use my name during the interview.

    There are so many things out there that seem 'weird' but that are incredibly potent, despite our lack to explain them scientifcally. To say it in St. Augustine's words: "Miracles are not contrary to nature, but only contrary to what we know about nature."

    I am sure that no matter what methods you employ, the intent and focus behind your choices will lead you to success and healing. You're well on your way!
  • Suntoucher,

    Thanks for posting the link and making Nattyfish and 'us' aware of these exercises. I was surprised to never had heard about the TRE before as I have been 'around the block' in regard to holistic (and weird image/icon_e_wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';-)' /> ) therapies. I have to say that this looks almost 'scarily crazy', but this won't deter me from finding out more image/icon_e_smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />. Have you read the book or do you own the DVD?
  • edited December 2012
    Nattyfish,

    I forgot to tell you about a therapy that - at least to me - seems too good to be true based on its incredibly quick and lasting results. When I describe this therapy to people who know EFT, I liken it to 'EFT on steroids'. As you may know, it is imperative to do really thorough work with EFT. Every aspect, feeling, tailender needs to be addressed for an issue to be completely resolved. With this rather new therapy called PSTEC (Percussive Suggestion Technique), you can achieve complete and lasting cessation of negative emotions etc. in a fraction of the time it would take EFT or EMDR to resolve negative emotions, thought patterns or even negative, limiting beliefs.

    Here are two links, in case you are interested: www.pstecaudiosource.org and www.pstec.org .

    You may even want to let your therapist/ practitioner know about this new tool. I'm sure that he/ she'll be amazed what PSTEC does once he/she tries it. image/icon_e_smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smile:' />
  • TRE is different - it's involuntary once it gets going, the stretches are there only to fatigue the muscles. Supposedly the tremoring releases any tension stored in the psoas (where "trauma primarily gets stored"). I did it for a while and after after a few weeks I noticed curious impact in social situations. Certain things just didn't bother me anymore, and it was obvious that something changed. I figured that the reason it works is that it somehow removes generalized anchors (think NLP). It was primarily developed for PTSD while he was stationed in some war zone - it comes from the real world as opposed to some shady ebook.




    Thanks for the information! I mentioned that the look similar because I noticed similarities in some of the exercises The shady ebook was based on work by a person that learned under Freud. I cannot remember his name right now but when I get a chance I will go back and really give a good look at it. My knowledge in this area is honestly too shallow to make a rational argument I just didn't want to be too quick to dismiss something just because of the publication format, if I did then I probably wouldn't have gone bulletproof.
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