I'm Slow And Mentally (Not Physically!) Tired Quickly, What Can Be The Reason, And Any Remed

edited July 2015 in Brain Hacking

First of all I am a very slow person. I am slow to think, slow to do stuff, slow to eat. I have always been like that. As a child at dinner, once everyone was finished eating, I was still eating for another hour. Now I am 35 years old and I'm still the same. Slow not only at eating, but everything. I am only a fast walker, I walk maybe 50% faster then other people, but almost everything else in life takes me maybe twice as much time (normal things, which everyone does, like getting dressed, eating, etc. Its hurting my life tremendously, as after I subtract from 24 hours the time I sleep, the time I need for daily body maintenance tasks like eating, dressing, showering, brushing teeth, shaving, there is very little time of the day left for me. I often resort to just skipping things, not showering, recently I grew I beard, just to have more time of the day left. I can do everything very precisely, everything takes me a lot more time then for other people.


 


Second thing I get mentally tired rather quickly and need a lot of mental rest often and for extended periods, just to be able to use my brain properly again. Many times during the day I do not feel physically tired, I feel physically very energetic, but I can't seem to just use my brain any more, I need to take at least half an hour when I don't use my brain too much, like walking in nature, sitting on grass, etc, and then I am good to go again.


 


This all leaves very little time during the day when I can actually do useful stuff. Out of 24 hours of the day, I maybe have roughly 4 hours where I am actually working mentally properly and can do stuff. The remaining 20 hours is body maintenance tasks (sleep/rest/cook/eat/wash/poop/revive). I need to revive mentally (by doing nothing for 5-20 minutes) even after washing dishes, eating or pooping! I'm NOT physically tired, I just feel like I can't think more even about simplest stuff until I rest. Its not something new, I've been like that a long time as I can remember, but only now I start thinking more and more that maybe there is something fixable in my body that can at least improve that significantly. I feel like this is not normal, and definitely sub-optimal. Eating Paleo since April 2012 and Bulletproof since June 2013 didn't fix it. Taking all the supplements I have listed in my post signature didn't fix it - as you see I take almost every useful mineral and vitamin, besides eating a nutrient-rich diet, full of pastured beef, wild fish and organic vegetables. I even eat liver once a week. Still it didn't help in the mentioned problem.


 


Anybody can shed any light on what it can be, does it ring a bell to anyone? Like you have saw or heard about this somewhere already? Possible solutions, and possible pointers to functional medicine experts who can analyze my body more thoroughly to find the causes and solutions? Any lab tests I could do?


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  • I would have said thyroid problems, but you already using 12.5mg iodine/iodide I see...


    I would suggest a co-enzymed B-complex (Jarrow B-Right) for especially the B6 (P-5-P), that's probably the most effective.


    I would also ditch the Lithium, makes people lethargic. Only use at night, maximum 2 times a week, or rather not at all.


  • edited July 2015

    I only started the 12.5 mg Iodine (Iodoral tablets) on 2015-06-21, which is about 3 weeks ago. Before I was doing 1 mg, 2 mg, 5 mg iodine daily for a few weeks each to up my dose slowly. Maybe its not enough time to make it start working? Somewhere I read mentioned it can take years to restore iodine levels. Any way to speed this up? I don't want to wait several years to check if iodine deficiency was the problem, only to discover then it was something else :)


     


    Before starting any iodine I did the skin test with painting a path on my skin with a standard 2% topical solution, and it completely disappeared within a few hours, so indicating I am deficient. 


     


    I am using https://cronometer.com/ rigorously for over a year, and my average daily vitamin B6 intake from food is 3.87 mg. Is there a reason that's now enough? I don't want to randomly introduce a supplement without first understanding why its necessary. Also Jarrow B-Right contains potentially carcinogenic titanium dioxide and also its 14 different vitamins, and I would prefer to individually control the amounts of each vitamin I take, not to take unnecessary stuff or overdose on some, so is it enough if I add this to my supplement stack: http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate-180-Veggie-Caps/18472


    or would you add something more? And where can I read a good article why it can be necessary even with my 3.87 mg B6 intake from food. And would I add one 33.8 mg capsule daily or more, and at what time?


     


    I did a blood test of Lithium before starting supplementation, and it was undetectable level, and I was equally lethargic before, so I don't think its the problem, but I will switch from daily at midday to twice a week at bedtime now.


  • s29s29
    edited July 2015

    Then you mainly just have thyroid problems. You need at least 25mg for 3 months, maybe even 6 to 12 months.


    I think it's safe to up the dose 6.25mg every week until 25mg. For maximum effectiveness, eliminate fluoride-exposure as much as possible.


     


    "Also Jarrow B-Right contains potentially carcinogenic titanium dioxide"


     


    That's the old formula, the new one doesn't (expiration date October 2017 or later).


     


    "and also its 14 different vitamins, and I would prefer to individually control the amounts of each vitamin I take, not to take unnecessary stuff or overdose on some"


    B-vitamins are water soluble, so it's impossible to overdose at the B-Right levels. Jarrow B-Right is called B-Right for a reason. You get more then you need, then you just piss it out.


     


    B6 is extremely important, always have at least 5mg in a P-5-P version (I don't trust B6 from food - P-5-P is a boss among b-vitamins). Other b-vitamins are also important, a lot of them are involved in energy production.




  • First of all I am a very slow person. I am slow to think, slow to do stuff, slow to eat. I have always been like that. As a child at dinner, once everyone was finished eating, I was still eating for another hour. Now I am 35 years old and I'm still the same. Slow not only at eating, but everything. I am only a fast walker, I walk maybe 50% faster then other people, but almost everything else in life takes me maybe twice as much time (normal things, which everyone does, like getting dressed, eating, etc. Its hurting my life tremendously, as after I subtract from 24 hours the time I sleep, the time I need for daily body maintenance tasks like eating, dressing, showering, brushing teeth, shaving, there is very little time of the day left for me. I often resort to just skipping things, not showering, recently I grew I beard, just to have more time of the day left. I can do everything very precisely, everything takes me a lot more time then for other people.


     


    Second thing I get mentally tired rather quickly and need a lot of mental rest often and for extended periods, just to be able to use my brain properly again. Many times during the day I do not feel physically tired, I feel physically very energetic, but I can't seem to just use my brain any more, I need to take at least half an hour when I don't use my brain too much, like walking in nature, sitting on grass, etc, and then I am good to go again.


     


    This all leaves very little time during the day when I can actually do useful stuff. Out of 24 hours of the day, I maybe have roughly 4 hours where I am actually working mentally properly and can do stuff. The remaining 20 hours is body maintenance tasks (sleep/rest/cook/eat/wash/poop/revive). I need to revive mentally (by doing nothing for 5-20 minutes) even after washing dishes, eating or pooping! I'm NOT physically tired, I just feel like I can't think more even about simplest stuff until I rest. Its not something new, I've been like that a long time as I can remember, but only now I start thinking more and more that maybe there is something fixable in my body that can at least improve that significantly. I feel like this is not normal, and definitely sub-optimal. Eating Paleo since April 2012 and Bulletproof since June 2013 didn't fix it. Taking all the supplements I have listed in my post signature didn't fix it - as you see I take almost every useful mineral and vitamin, besides eating a nutrient-rich diet, full of pastured beef, wild fish and organic vegetables. I even eat liver once a week. Still it didn't help in the mentioned problem.


     


    Anybody can shed any light on what it can be, does it ring a bell to anyone? Like you have saw or heard about this somewhere already? Possible solutions, and possible pointers to functional medicine experts who can analyze my body more thoroughly to find the causes and solutions? Any lab tests I could do?




    This sounds very familiar....


    I'm also very slooooooow. Eating bread used to take me forever as a kid. I recently released it was because I had to force it down...my body was trying to reject it. Same stuff with everything else, slow...


    Let us know if you have any breakthroughs. I recently upped my carbohydrates and think I'm doing better. Just posting cause I identify with your post, but have never thought of it in those terms.


    Does it sometimes feel that your brain is working on something else in the background and that you only have a little bit extra for normal tasks?

  • s29s29
    edited July 2015


    This sounds very familiar....


    I'm also very slooooooow. Eating bread used to take me forever as a kid. I recently released it was because I had to force it down...my body was trying to reject it. Same stuff with everything else, slow...


    Let us know if you have any breakthroughs. I recently upped my carbohydrates and think I'm doing better. Just posting cause I identify with your post, but have never thought of it in those terms.


    Does it sometimes feel that your brain is working on something else in the background and that you only have a little bit extra for normal tasks?




     


    Always take high dosaged iodine-iodide 6.25/12.5mg (Iodoral) in combination with selenium (Life Extension Super Selenium) for mental sharpness and thyroid energy. A lot of people are walking around with brominated and fluorinated thyroids (the nazi's used fluoride in the drinking water during World War II to make people docile and lethargic - no kidding). Iodine flushes toxic halogens like bromide out of your body. The RDI/RDA for iodine is the biggest joke in the universe, should be at least 3-4mg, not 0.150mg. Don't use kelp or food as a source, it's mostly contaminated.


  • dazdaz today is a good day ✭✭✭
    edited July 2015


    ....The RDI/RDA for iodine is the biggest joke in the universe, should be at least 3-4mg, not 0.150mg. Don't use kelp or food as a source, it's mostly contaminated.


    The thing is with the IOM recs, they have to try and set recs for 100% of the population with safety in mind. so they set minimum numbers to prevent know illnesses such as goiter.

    milligram doses of iodine is not going to work for 100% of the population (even if all the correct co nutrients are spot on).


    I notice Paul Jaminet (perfect health diet) reduced his Iodine recs downwards a while back, to be on the safe side...& because people may not have their selenium intake nailed.


    Suppversity did a fairly comprehensive post earlier this month on Iodine as part of his "Too Much of a Good Thing" series here: Iodine: 1 mg/day + Can be Bad for You, But the Dangers are as Individual as the Benefits


    This follows on from the first post of the series in June covering Selenium: Selenium: Little More Than in Many 'Multis' Can Trigger Subclinical Hypothyroidism, Less Selenium (25% of the RDA) Cuts 13% Body Fat in 10 Weeks

    fake it till you make it

  • s29s29
    edited August 2015


    The thing is with the IOM recs, they have to try and set recs for 100% of the population with safety in mind. so they set minimum numbers to prevent know illnesses such as goiter.

    milligram doses of iodine is not going to work for 100% of the population (even if all the correct co nutrients are spot on).


    I notice Paul Jaminet (perfect health diet) reduced his Iodine recs downwards a while back, to be on the safe side...& because people may not have their selenium intake nailed.


    Suppversity did a fairly comprehensive post earlier this month on Iodine as part of his "Too Much of a Good Thing" series here: Iodine: 1 mg/day + Can be Bad for You, But the Dangers are as Individual as the Benefits


    This follows on from the first post of the series in June covering Selenium: Selenium: Little More Than in Many 'Multis' Can Trigger Subclinical Hypothyroidism, Less Selenium (25% of the RDA) Cuts 13% Body Fat in 10 Weeks




     


     


     


    So what's the verdict? While it is possible to consume "too much of a good thing" for iodine, it is still not clear (a) how much too much is and ( B) for whom this really is a problem. Assuming that you already have thyroid issues or you realize that something is wrong with your TSH, T3 or T4 values after starting to supplement with iodine, stop taking it - the evidence that there are real benefits of consuming iodine in the milligram-to-gram range on a daily basis is quasi non-existent, anyways and evidence of a linear or predictable positive relationship between the amount of iodine you consume and your metabolic rate is as non-existent as proven beneficial effects on the gut microbiome, iodine's ability to "flush out toxins" or the "potent anti-oxidant effects" you can read about on the Internet (in fact, high doses are pro-oxidant and may even have necrotic effects, meaning that the will kill cells - good or bad | Many. 1992; Denef. 1996).

     

     

    That being said, the supply of iodine in the US diet is generally sufficient (Caldwell. 2011), only those groups who are unfortunately also most likely to get too little of other good stuff, i.e. those parts of the population who eat the most messed up diets appear at a small risk of not getting enough iodine on a daily basis. If you have kids or are planning to have kids, though, you may still want to screen your diet for adequate intakes which would be 90 mcg/day for children, 150 mcg/day for adults and 220 mcg/day (but not more than 300-400mcg) for pregnant and 290 mcg/day for lactating/breastfeeding women



     


    This is a totally ridiculous and even naive article. Iodine, fluoride and bromide are halogens, and they compete with eachother in the body. This article doens't even mention that. The fact is that fluoride (water, dental products) and bromide (medicins, electronics, dashboards, pesticides, etc) exposure in the modern world is extreme. To compensate these toxic halogens people need at least 3 to 4mg of iodine/iodide.


     


    Hypothyroidism is therefore severe (about 50 to even 90% of the population). The thyroid needs adequate amounts of iodine and selenium to function well (always take at least 100mcg Selenium, or 200mcg every other day).


     


    http://www.amazon.com/Optimox-Iodoral-Potency-Potassium-Supplement/dp/B000X843VG/ref=sr_1_2?&s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1437143003&sr=1-2


    All these people reviewing Iodoral (a whopping 4.5 star rating with a whopping 812 reviews) must be so wrong.


     


    People who are against high dosaged iodine/iodide are just afraid to try it out for themselves (for longer periods, not for a day or week). They always bitch about the high dosage compared to the ridiculously low RDI/RDA's (too much iodine is simply excreted through urine), the fluoride/bromide-detox effects (they think it's an iodine-allergy) and always come up with unreliable bloodtests.


     


    High dosaged iodine/iodide is dirt-cheap, extremely effective, extremely healthy and extremely safe.


  • edited July 2015
    For my personal experience, the supplement that helped me most in terms of fatigue, physical and mental, was the SAM-e or S-adenosyl-methionine.

     

    Instead I read that rodhiola rosea is the best herbal remedy with regard to fatigue, but I have no direct experience with it.

  • dazdaz today is a good day ✭✭✭
    edited July 2015


    This is a totally ridiculous and even naive article. Iodine, fluoride and bromide are halogens, and they compete with eachother in the body. This article doens't even mention that. The fact is that fluoride (water, dental products) and bromide (medicins, electronics, dashboards, pesticides, etc) exposure in the modern world is extreme. To compensate these toxic halogens people need at least 3 to 4mg of iodine/iodide.




     


    True, the article does not talk about/mention Halogens. That could be because he did not look for related studies on halogens, or perhaps he did & could not find any, idk. 

    Just a cursory browse at the reference list, most (perhaps nearly all?) of those studies look to be done outside of the US. One specifically mentions US. 


    And the guy that wrote the article is German and lives in Germany where water fluoridation is banned, so perhaps fluoride was not on his radar and subsequently halogens were not on his radar. 


    According to wiki(ref), around 5.7% of the world population receive artificially-fluoridated water in about 24 countries. So perhaps thyroid issues are not so prevalent in places where water is not fluoridated. 


     




    Hypothyroidism is therefore severe (about 50 to even 90% of the population). 




     


    ^ are those % for the US population ? 


    fake it till you make it

  • s29s29
    edited July 2015


    True, the article does not talk about/mention Halogens. That could be because he did not look for related studies on halogens, or perhaps he did & could not find any, idk. 

    Just a cursory browse at the reference list, most (perhaps nearly all?) of those studies look to be done outside of the US. One specifically mentions US. 


    And the guy that wrote the article is German and lives in Germany where water fluoridation is banned, so perhaps fluoride was not on his radar and subsequently halogens were not on his radar. 


    According to wiki(ref), around 5.7% of the world population receive artificially-fluoridated water in about 24 countries. So perhaps thyroid issues are not so prevalent in places where water is not fluoridated. 


     


     


    ^ are those % for the US population ? 




     


    That's true, in area's where the water is fluorinated the situation is of course way worse. But almost everybody is still using dental products with fluoride, and have a high bromide-exposure (who isn't using gadgets like smartphones and tons of other products which contain bromide). I didn't even mention the other one, chloride which is in swimming water and other stuff. The conclusion is that the average westerner is under massive attack of these toxic halogens (or halides), even if you try to avoid them.


     


    In the meanwhile the intake of iodine is in large parts of the western world is low, except maybe Japan. But Japan these days is having contamination-problems with iodine-rich food. So almost everybody has a sub-optimal functioning thyroid. The only difference is that the one person has it worse than the other. Even if people don't have hypothyroidism (or think they don't), they should take a Lugol's solution (at least 3mg or 6.25mg every other day) to ensure optimal performance of the thyroid (plus Selenium).


  • CalvinCalvin
    edited July 2015


    Then you mainly just have thyroid problems. You need at least 25mg for 3 months, maybe even 6 to 12 months.


    I think it's safe to up the dose 6.25mg every week until 25mg. For maximum effectiveness, eliminate fluoride-exposure as much as possible.


     


    "Also Jarrow B-Right contains potentially carcinogenic titanium dioxide"


     


    That's the old formula, the new one doesn't (expiration date October 2017 or later).


     


    "and also its 14 different vitamins, and I would prefer to individually control the amounts of each vitamin I take, not to take unnecessary stuff or overdose on some"


    B-vitamins are water soluble, so it's impossible to overdose at the B-Right levels. Jarrow B-Right is called B-Right for a reason. You get more then you need, then you just piss it out.


     


    B6 is extremely important, always have at least 5mg in a P-5-P version (I don't trust B6 from food - P-5-P is a boss among b-vitamins). Other b-vitamins are also important, a lot of them are involved in energy production.




    I have been thinking about your recommendation to take b vitamins. I see you are making a point of getting the right brand. How important is this.


    I see Norway have restrictions on importing b vitamins (what the hell, this stuff makes me paranoid) so I don't really want to order b vitamins and have them stopped in the customs.


    Would you say taking normal B vitamins from the local pharmacy or health store is a bad idea? Is it the B9 aka folic acid which is the one who often comes in the wrong version which is harmful?


    Is the other b vitamins always or mostly good?


     


    Here's the link to my local pharmacy b supplement:


    http://www.apotek1.no/produkter/nycoplus-b-kompleks-tabletter-200stk-906486p


    http://www.apotek1.no/produkter/nycoplus-b-total-tabletter-250stk-430413p


    http://www.apotek1.no/produkter/nycoplus-folsyre-400-mcg-tabletter-100stk-994649p


     


    The information is very limited. Maybe it is of low quality. But maybe better than nothing?


     


    I just made an huge order from iHerb and I'm not eager to make another one... Nice to just go local.


     


     


    I read that liver contains lots of b vitamins, maybe I should start eating liver?


  • Could be a cellular voltage problem with one or more of your electrical circuits running at reduced power. read "Healing Is Voltage" by Dr Jerry Tennant and follow his recommendations. Jerry had similar problems to you where his brain would shutdown for significant portions of the day. it might also be worth your while buying a bio-modulator from him. You ca get them from www.senergy.us
  • s29s29
    edited July 2015


    Could be a cellular voltage problem with one or more of your electrical circuits running at reduced power. read "Healing Is Voltage" by Dr Jerry Tennant and follow his recommendations. Jerry had similar problems to you where his brain would shutdown for significant portions of the day. it might also be worth your while buying a bio-modulator from him. You ca get them from www.senergy.us




     


    Yeah, let's correct nutritional deficiencies with bio-modulators and expensive exotic therapies.


     


    All my b-vitamins starved brain and my brominated thyroid needed was some elektrostimulation! I should have known about this before :)


  • edited July 2015


    "and also its 14 different vitamins, and I would prefer to individually control the amounts of each vitamin I take, not to take unnecessary stuff or overdose on some"


    B-vitamins are water soluble, so it's impossible to overdose at the B-Right levels. Jarrow B-Right is called B-Right for a reason. You get more then you need, then you just piss it out.




     


    What if I am probably an undermethylator (I have a lot of undermethylation traits, but haven't tested this throughoutly yet), and recently I read that undermethylated persons do worse on folates: http://samanthagilbert.com/folate-friend-foe/


     


    That said I am taking 400 Âµg 5-MTHF now, but I started taking this long before I read about undermethylation and folate, so I have been thinking about stopping folate when I finish my bottle, so I wouldn't want to take a complex with folate.


     


    But honestly, I can't say if I am feeling worse since taking folate, then without, because I don't remember. Maybe I should learn more about this methylation thing, and maybe do some lab tests for methylation, before changing my supplement regime again. 


     


    If that thing about undermethylation and folate proves to be an issue for me, then if I am to supplement more B-vitamins, I will need to probably design my own B-stack, because all existing B-complex pills are with some form of folate. So besides Thiamine and P-5-P what should I put in there for sure?


     


    What about this: http://www.iherb.com/Optimox-Corporation-ATP-Cofactors-90-Tablets/23908


    which is sold as to be taken together with Iodoral?


  • s29s29
    edited July 2015


    What if I am probably an undermethylator (I have a lot of undermethylation traits, but haven't tested this throughoutly yet), and recently I read that undermethylated persons do worse on folates: http://samanthagilbert.com/folate-friend-foe/


     


    That said I am taking 400 Âµg 5-MTHF now, but I started taking this long before I read about undermethylation and folate, so I have been thinking about stopping folate when I finish my bottle, so I wouldn't want to take a complex with folate.


     


    But honestly, I can't say if I am feeling worse since taking folate, then without, because I don't remember. Maybe I should learn more about this methylation thing, and maybe do some lab tests for methylation, before changing my supplement regime again.




     


     


     


    This explains why my years as a raw vegan on a high folate diet yielded devastating results for me.

     


    This article almost sounds like a joke to me. I never heard of a food that contains high-quality QUATREFOLIC. Didn't know governments would be smart enough to enforce food with this! When I say Folate I mean patented high-quality (6S)-5-methyltetrahydrofolic acid or (6S)-5-MTHF, not the generic name Folate that this article talks about. (6S)-5-methyltetrahydrofolic is supersafe, superhealthy and supereffective, even in high dosages. Regular Folic Acid on the other hand can be dangerous, even in low amounts. So Be Right with the QUATREFOLIC that's in B-Right. B-Right works perfectly with Iodoral.


  • Well, here is a bit more about where this "no folate for undermethylators" comes from:


    http://methyl-nation.com/folate-or-no-folate-that-is-the-question/


     


    "Now Mensah, who trained under Walsh, bases his approach on nothing but biomarkers. The primary biomarkers they use are whole blood histamine to determine methylation output, and unbound copper. They do not use genetic testing. Now they have incredibly different opinions on the idea of histamine, overmethylation, and undermethylation in which I will cover more in depth soon. They also do not believe that undermethylators should take folate and believe they should follow a low folate diet, EVEN if they have MTHFR. Overmethylators are supposed to take high dose folic acid and niacin. Undermethylators are those who are not producing a lot of methyl donors."


     


    There was a Bulletproofexec podcast with this Dr. Walsh, so there is at least some credibility with his opinions: https://www.bulletproofexec.com/gain-control-of-your-biochemistry-with-william-j-walsh-ph-d-podcast-132/


     


    What about this: http://latitudes.org/dr-william-walsh-autism-ocd-pandas-depression-methylation/


     


    "Nutrient therapies for treating undermethylation are well known, but great care must be used in the case of undermethylated persons with low serotonin activity. Folic acid, folinic acid, and methylfolate all act as serotonin reuptake promoters by an epigenetic mechanism,the opposite of what these patients need."


     


    And this: http://mthfr.net/taking-folate-and-feeling-badly-methylation-requires-balance/2011/11/15/


     


    I just want to gather more knowledge and opinions, to make-up my own mind should I continue to take 5-MTHF or not. If anyone has more idea about this then me at this point, please comment the above links, if you can add anything to it.


  • Dave also advices this to take. Just test and see if you feel better (which I think almost everybody will). We can theorize until Jesus Christ comes back to earth. There's no better test than to take something and see how you feel.




  • Yeah, let's correct nutritional deficiencies with bio-modulators and expensive exotic therapies.


     


    All my b-vitamins starved brain and my brominated thyroid needed was some elektrostimulation! I should have known about this before :)




    Having suffered from chronic illness for 6 years and spent upwards of $200k trying to fix it I can tell you I know what I am talking about... Cells in the body are like computers. To make new cells that work properly you need a number of things such as:


     


    1. Nutrition - amino acids, vitamins, minerals, fats. Think of this as the hardware of the computer. 


    2. Voltage - Cells are designed to run at -25 millivolts but it takes -50 millivolts to make new cells. When you are sick voltage will go down into the low -ve's and into +10, +20 etc. Think of voltage as the electricity that runs into your computer when you plug it in. 


    3. Frequency - All glands, organs, muscles etc require specific frequency sets to run optimally. You can think of frequency as the software of your computer. 


     


    The Bio-modulator is designed to correct numbers 2 and 3. You can optimise nutrition all you want but if you don't also correct number 2 and 3 you aren't going to get anywhere. There are other ways (besides the bio-modulator) to correct 2 and 3. Sort out your thyroid and adrenals, drinking alkaline water and treating any dental infections can all help with voltage. Specially blended essential oils can help with frequency. 


     


    I have been to Dr Tennant at his office in Texas, used his protocol and taken a 3 day biomodulator course. He knows his stuff. There were a lot of people taking the course who had suffered from chronic illness for many years and made significant improvements after coming to see him.

  • s29s29
    edited July 2015


    Having suffered from chronic illness for 6 years and spent upwards of $200k trying to fix it I can tell you I know what I am talking about... Cells in the body are like computers. To make new cells that work properly you need a number of things such as:


     


    1. Nutrition - amino acids, vitamins, minerals, fats. Think of this as the hardware of the computer. 


    2. Voltage - Cells are designed to run at -25 millivolts but it takes -50 millivolts to make new cells. When you are sick voltage will go down into the low -ve's and into +10, +20 etc. Think of voltage as the electricity that runs into your computer when you plug it in. 


    3. Frequency - All glands, organs, muscles etc require specific frequency sets to run optimally. You can think of frequency as the software of your computer. 


     


    The Bio-modulator is designed to correct numbers 2 and 3. You can optimise nutrition all you want but if you don't also correct number 2 and 3 you aren't going to get anywhere. There are other ways (besides the bio-modulator) to correct 2 and 3. Sort out your thyroid and adrenals, drinking alkaline water and treating any dental infections can all help with voltage. Specially blended essential oils can help with frequency. 


     


    I have been to Dr Tennant at his office in Texas, used his protocol and taken a 3 day biomodulator course. He knows his stuff. There were a lot of people taking the course who had suffered from chronic illness for many years and made significant improvements after coming to see him.




     


     


    I didn't say it wouldn't work. All I say was what you said:


     


     


     


    1. Nutrition - amino acids, vitamins, minerals, fats.

     


    But I'm pretty sure Dr. Tennant wouldn't start with months of dirtcheap iodine-loading, but would go almost directly to his way too $expensive$ biomodulator stuff. It's a bit like selling a Ferrari to someone who doesn't have a car. "Well you don't have a car sir, so you need a Ferrari!"


  • In his book he does layout a bunch of ways to correct voltage/frequency without the bio-modulator including a whole chapter talking about hypothyroidism where he talks extensively about iodine. He isn't some used car sales man. He was bed ridden for a number of years with a chronic debilitating health problem and is interested in helping others. By all means don't buy the bio-modulator but the OP should at least look at the book which I consider (tied along with one other book) as the best and most comprehensive guide for fixing chronic health problems.
  • RekaReka ✭✭✭

    I'm curious. If you have tried eating faster and doing stuff faster, what prevented you from actually doing it?


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  • I'm curious. If you have tried eating faster and doing stuff faster, what prevented you from actually doing it?




     


    The same thing that prevents you for example from running faster then you can.


     


    Actually, occasionally I have periods of time that for an hour or two I can do things reasonably fast, think fast, very efficiently. These don't happen every day, and if they happen, they expire after one, two or maximum three hours, and I back to being slow again. It very much seems like I am running out of something then, so I am trying to figure out what "fuel" I am running out of, that lasts only such short amount of time (if it happens at all on a given day). Unfortunately I was not able yet to figure out what triggers these moments when I am working properly, and how to replicate them.

  • s29s29
    edited July 2015


    The same thing that prevents you for example from running faster then you can.


     


    Actually, occasionally I have periods of time that for an hour or two I can do things reasonably fast, think fast, very efficiently. These don't happen every day, and if they happen, they expire after one, two or maximum three hours, and I back to being slow again. It very much seems like I am running out of something then, so I am trying to figure out what "fuel" I am running out of, that lasts only such short amount of time (if it happens at all on a given day). Unfortunately I was not able yet to figure out what triggers these moments when I am working properly, and how to replicate them.




     


    Still not taking P5P? Your neurotransmitters need them ASAP. Stop theorizing like Nostradamus, take P5P.


  • edited July 2015


    I'm curious. If you have tried eating faster and doing stuff faster, what prevented you from actually doing it?




     


    To give you a better idea of the experience:


     


    For example making Bulletproof coffee in the morning. Just taking out all the ingredients and putting them on the table sometimes takes me 15 minutes... My brain takes a minute or two to process information required to retrieve each ingredient, so it goes like this: OK, Bulletproof coffee, what do I need... butter, OK, me thinks where is butter, ah, OK, butter is in the fridge, so let me take it out. Me takes out butter. This whole process in a normal person should not take more then 10 seconds. For me it takes 1-3 minutes. By the time all ingredients and equipment are on the table ready to start brewing, its 5-15 minutes gone from my life. It can take me half an hour to 1 hour to make Bulletproof coffee. Most of which is spent just thinking and not actually doing anything. Doing stuff (physically) is actually fast, but its like my brain works at 10% speed and slows down everything which requires its use. Even for such trivial things as retrieving butter from the fridge.


     


    That's why I am quite fast at things once thinking is done, and something requires just mechanical work, no thought - like I walk 50% faster then other people once I know where I want to go, and there are no obstructions which would require decision making (like whether to go around an obstacle on the left side or on the right). 


     


    I have absolutely terrible short-term memory, I can think of doing something, and then 5 seconds later I forgot what it was that I wanted to do, so I have to stop doing anything and think what it was that I wanted to do, and it can take a few minutes, so doing things is stalled. Actually whatever I do it seems like over 80% of the time is spent stalled waiting for my brain to retrieve and process information, and little time is spent doing anything. Someone new tells me their name, and I can forget it 1 minute later, and ask again about it. I can't remember faces of people I've seen and later when I see them again, even some minutes/hours later the same day, I think intensively is it the same person I already seen, or someone else, and often I am wrong about that.


     


    I have to write down what I am doing in big letters on pieces of paper and put it in front of me, so I see the piece of paper all the time, otherwise I forget what I am doing while doing it, and have to stop and think "what it was that I was doing?". But I think my long term memory is quite good, its just the short-term I feel its terrible. Once I learn them, I can remember long numbers for a long time, have no problems remembering various different PIN codes, bank account numbers.


     


    In about 14 hours a bottle with 60 capsules of 34 mg P5P like this: http://www.metabolics.com/vitamin-b6-p-5-p-pot-of-60-capsules.html should arrive from Amazon.co.uk (if they don't lose the package again). I'll see how it changes things, although I somehow doubt the improvements will be dramatic on this alone, but I just want to test what effects has P5P alone so I will try this before introducing a full B-complex.


  • http://metabolichealing.com/b-6-deficiency/


     


    "On a routine blood test, the most related markers are decreases in the ALT (alanine aminotrasferase) and AST (asparatate amino transferase) enzymes. Both of these metabolic enzymes are B-6-dependent. Values less than 12 are good indicators of B-6 deficiency."


     


    My ALT:


    2013-06-17    33 U/l


    2015-03-19    40 U/l


     


    My AST:


    2013-06-17    31 U/l

    2015-03-19    27 U/l


     


    So they seem to be good, s29 care to comment?


     


    I will take the P-5-P and see what happens, but it could be hundreds of other things also, so I am more looking for suggestions what blood/urine tests to do to check what really is the reason of my brain malfunctioning, instead of blindly introducing new supplements.


  • 1) Bloodtests are not always reliable


    2) B-vitamins are water soluble, so you can easy saturate your levels way above RDA without any risk of damage. RDA's are a joke in general.


     


    So take P5P (at least 10mg, maximum 100mg), and see if you feel better.


  • @Joplin: just hair with Trace Elements, Inc.:


     


    Uranium: 0.0007 mg%


    As: 0.006 mg%


    Be: 0.001 mg%


    Hg: 0.02 mg%


    Cd: 0.001 mg%


    Pb: 0.1 mg%


    Al: 0.3 mg%


     


     


    Now I see that:


     


    http://drlwilson.com/articles/TOXIC%20METALS.htm


     


    "The most commonly elevated is aluminum, and elevated means anything above about 0.02 mg%" (mine is 15 times that)


     


    "Hidden copper toxicity. The hair copper level is a very poor indicator of copper toxicity, which is very common.  Instead, look for hidden copper indicators, which include:


    Copper greater than 2.5 mg%

    Copper less than 1.5 mg%(mine is 0.9 mg%)


    Calcium greater than about 65 mg% (mine is 89 mg%)

    Potassium less than about 5 mg% (mine is 1 mg%)

    Mercury greater than about 0.03 mg% (mine is 0.02 mg%)

     


    And http://drlwilson.com/articles/MIN.IDEALS.htm


     


    Elevated levels of toxic mineral:


    Lead > 0.06 mg% (mine is 0.1 mg%)


     


    I am also in the range of "very poor eliminator" for several (if that makes any sense).


     


    I didn't think to look deeper into the toxic metal numbers, because in the explanation TEI attached, it said that "all toxic metals are within acceptable ranges", but now I read that labs have the toxic level limits set too high.


     


    Not sure if the levels provided by Dr. Wilson can be credible, but maybe there is something with a little bit lead, copper and aluminum. 


  • Iodoral works great against Alu and Lead.


  • Created an account to say that I also experience the same symptoms. It's like a fatigue / brain fog overwhelms me; especially when I first awake and after eating. Some days it's worse than others - I eat a meal and then literally take a nap for 3 hours, in what feels like a very real double sleep cycle complete with REM (dreaming). In the last 3 years this has had social and career ramifications - I am just not my old self.


     


    I went through a very stressful set of years recently and I think that's what triggered it. Genetics and food maybe have played a role.


     


    I've worked with a doctor and nutritionist for eighteen months. We've uncovered a bunch of stuff but not figured out the main culprit yet.


     


    I have low readings for Testosterone, Vitamin D, cortisol, and various other markers. I'm actually basically normal on a thyroid panel but based on symptoms and family history my doctor did want to start there.


     


    T3 & T4 for thyroid have helped me not feel cold at night (was sleeping with a sweater on) but no major energy change. I've tried Hydrocortisone which only helps in response to acute stress but doesn't help latent energy levels.


     


    I've been tested for food sensitivities and uncovered about 24 sensitivities and strong antibody levels for gluten, so I went gluten free. I actually had a period of time for 7 months where I was gluten free, dairy free, really low sugar, caffeine free, and alcohol free. I have since eased up seeing that it does not fix me, but I've stayed strict on the gluten aspect. A follow up test just confirmed those antibodies are way down (negative).


     


    I've had multiple tests for bacteriology and parasitology. We discovered yeast and I did several weeks of nystatin; cleared that on a subsequent test. We discovered bad bacteria, did antibiotics and cleared that. We discovered small intestinal bowel overgrowth (SIBO), did Xifaxin, cleared that as well. Actually Xifaxan made me feel better for a while as well - until it didn't. None of these things had a permanent change in my energy.


     


    I had two sleep studies done. One was a take-home study from a local lab and the other was at Stanford. Sleep apnea negative in both cases. I am now looking into sleep architecture on my own, using a ResMed S+ and a Basis watch to collect some home readings. I have found that my dreams improve from negative in content to neutral/positive with 1500mg tryptophan, 700mg St Johns Wort, and 2 Gabatrols (phenyl-GABA, theanine, plus a few other things) - but no energy change.


     


    I've tried amino acids, mehtylated multivitamins, etc. Tryptophan, GABA, Magnesium and Zinc help mood. Tyrosine can help energy a little.


     


    Heat can help energy a little. Hot showers, saunas, etc. Not greatly.


     


    I've had tests for amino acid levels in blood, heavy metals in blood, etc. Nothing crazy, we tried addressing the minor off-levels.


     


    The current plan is to redo parasitology testing (amoebas, etc), do infectious disease testing (EBV, Lyme, etc), and then maybe move on to addressing testosterone indirectly or directly. We deferred T because he hoped it could be addressed by fixing a "root cause" rather than intervening directly.


     


    In the past I have tried exercise of varying levels - none, 3x weekly 20 minutes, P90X daily, etc. That doesn't seem to help. Currently I walk 30 minutes to/from work daily.


     


    It may end up that it is multifactorial, but I can't help but think there will be one breakthrough that gets me halfway home.


     


    I've logged eighteen months of personal journal data on energy levels, diet, etc and I do have some "up" times but I haven't been able to correlate the reasons yet!


     


    Hope one of us can work it out. Figured I'd share in case we can swap any information.


     


  • edited July 2015

    Just finished reading and re-reading Dr. Tennant's book "Healing is Voltage".  His take on nutrition deficits and what to take for damaged organs was very useful.  His take on how to put energy back into places that need more, not so much.  My perspective, the body's energy is not digital.  Why would a digital output wave not be more of a stressor?  If the body is already suffering, why risk reinforcing this? 


     


    Some of the symptoms described by these two gentlemen sound alot like EMF sensitivity.  Tennant talks about this in his book. 


     


    A few years back, I witnessed an ER Nurse's GDV evaluation after coming off a shift in an ER lit with fluorescent lighting, something he commented on.  He had huge gaps in his data field printout and complained of feeling like he was already dead.  He used an analog device for 20 minutes and the test was run a second time.  His field had filled in and balanced.  He ate, sang and entertained us for the next few hours into the night without the use of any stimulants. 


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