Deep sleep Hail Marys

Hello all,
First post, but I have been following bulletproof diet/lifestyle for the past year. One area that seems to be my nemesis is deep sleep. My lack of it most likely explains the CFS type symptoms that I have (fatigue, dry-eye, insomnia). So far I have tried all of the basics and I am hoping that members have some long-shot hacks that have let them get into stage 3 for longer that 20min a night. I do blue blocker glasses and dim lights 2 hours prior to bed, use an acupressure mat, and do all of the typical supps like magnesium, zinc, omega's. I tried tryptophan, 5-htp, theanine, and Valerian root without any success and some pretty bad side effects on the first two. I also use folate and b12 in the mornings for my MTHFR mutation and tried NAC, ALCAR, and Alpha lipic acid for mitochondria support, but all three taken together or seperatly made me feel terrible. None of these can boost me past my typical twenty minutes of deep sleep. I am 32 years old, eat very clean, and exercise daily. So, any miracle hacks out there?

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  • dazdaz today is a good day ✭✭✭
    edited May 9

    I'm in the same boat. No success so far.
    ...Pink noise was the latest idea I found, for potentially increasing slow wave sleep (deep sleep).
    Not sure if you can do much with this, but here's the related study;
    http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00109/full

    fake it till you make it

  • dazdaz today is a good day ✭✭✭

    you may be genetically predisposed to less slow wave sleep...
    https://selfhacked.com/2015/07/01/bdnf-genes-correct/
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3274334/ "The BDNF Val66Met Polymorphism Modulates Sleep Intensity: EEG Frequency- and State-Specificity"

    https://selfhacked.com/2015/06/27/a-comprehensive-list-of-natural-ways-to-increase-bdnf/

    fake it till you make it

  • clonemancloneman
    edited June 26

    I started ingesting small amounts of THC before bed. At first, it was to fall asleep faster, but, I noticed I felt so much more rested in the morning. I slept 4 hours one night and felt fine the entire day (that's never happened to me before).

    I've been doing it for a week now and I'm really satisfied. I have Royal Purple Kush, I just sprinkle a few leaves (0.1g ?) in some Ghee and Bake for 22 minutes at 320F. Some lemon juice drops afterwards because it doesn't taste great.

    I'm not normally a weed user, I'm just experimenting. Definitely don't overdo it though; I took 0.5g one night, didn't set an alarm, and woke up 15 hours later.

  • On my second trial of resistant starch (Bob Redmill's Unmodified Potato Starch) I have been able to triple my deep sleep time from around 20 minutes to over an hour each night. Notably, I do not feel anymore rested but the numbers have changed.

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