Butter + Mct Without Coffee

Is there any advantage of mixing butter and MCT oil with bulletproof coffee versus having the butter and MCT oil separately and *not with* the bulletproof coffee?



I count myself as one who prefers tea over coffee and would be interested to hear your thoughts.



Jeffrey
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  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭
    Probably none. Besides the taste, it's simply a trick to get the MCT, butter and caffeine into your system in a nice package.
  • I'd suggest trying both comparatively... for me (and I took up drinking coffee entirely to drink bullet proof coffee) I could enjoy much more butter and MCT in coffee than tea.
  • The coffee gives you a special clarity/high image/icon_e_wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';-)' />
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  • Here's an excerpt from the Joe Rogan transcript that got my attention about the possible special symbiotic effect of blending the butter, mct and coffee together:


    ...it gets foamy and frothy, just like the best Latte you’ve ever had. It doesn’t taste gross. It doesn’t taste buttery and oily, and when you drink it you are full for hours. And you have this incredible focus. It’s just insane.



    JR: Whoa. How is that possible? What is it doing? It’s just causing, like a synergistic effect with the butter, the oil, and the coffee… it makes the stimulant last longer? Is that what it is?



    DA: Well the hunger part happens because your bodies getting the short and medium chain fatty acids that are really hard to get in your diet. So because you’re doing that, you’re already getting a big boost there. And then, we believe that it probably helps to escort the terpenes that are inside coffee, like cafestol and kahweol, the psychoactive compounds that are not caffeine. We think it helps those go into the brain. The other reason I’m theorizing that it gives you this kind of boost is because the small drops of fat that are formed when you blend it are called micelles, and they absorb better into the body.




    So it's on the speculative and theoretical side, but I've had the impression from this that sum of the ingredients that go into bpc is lesser than the whole, ie, that by consuming them separately you might miss out on a greater effect.



    Who knows. The veterans of this board all seem to think that it doesn't matter so much how you combine the ingredients of bpc, if you do at all, and even whether you drink coffee or not. I have almost zero experience with any of this, just a podcast here and there, whatever I've found reading, and some really nice cups of coffee.
  • Some nice background work. Would be interesting to here more if the blending of the MCT + buter + coffee helps to create a delivery vessel for some of the compounds that produce a greater effect compared to having the ingredients separately.



    Jeffrey


    'hza' wrote:


    Here's an excerpt from the Joe Rogan transcript that got my attention about the possible special symbiotic effect of blending the butter, mct and coffee together:







    So it's on the speculative and theoretical side, but I've had the impression from this that sum of the ingredients that go into bpc is lesser than the whole, ie, that by consuming them separately you might miss out on a greater effect.



    Who knows. The veterans of this board all seem to think that it doesn't matter so much how you combine the ingredients of bpc, if you do at all, and even whether you drink coffee or not. I have almost zero experience with any of this, just a podcast here and there, whatever I've found reading, and some really nice cups of coffee.
  • I actually like the taste of my coffee and I felt like I was losing that taste with all of the fat added. I usually add 2 TBL of MCT Oil and 2 TBL of Kerrygold to my coffeee. This morning as a test, I took the two tablespoons of MCT as mini-shots and blended the butter into my coffee. Since the MCT oil was tasteless, it went fine and I enjoyed the coffee more on my drive into work. I was eyeballing the butter, and decided I couldn't just eat it whole (plus I was worried about my wife, who is skeptical about bulletproofing already, to walk into the kitchen and catch me eating butter.) So if the fat is a vessel, I'm hoping that the 2 tbl butter to 500 ml coffee ratio is good enough.
  • Alternatively, maybe you could use more coffee so that the butter and mct oil doesn't affect the flavor so much. Although 500 ml is a pretty healthy amount as it is.
  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭
    I like adding a splash of raw milk to my BPC. Makes it taste pretty much like a real latte with all the butter.
  • OceanRayOceanRay
    edited February 2013
    'BP wrote:


    I was eyeballing the butter, and decided I couldn't just eat it whole (plus I was worried about my wife, who is skeptical about bulletproofing already, to walk into the kitchen and catch me eating butter.)




    Have you not tried KerryGold as a suppository?
  • No matter how much butter I use the coffee tastes buttery. I find it best to drink when the coffee is piping hot - the more it cools off the more it tastes like butter to me, and the coffee taste is gone.
  • 'gramercy' wrote:


    No matter how much butter I use the coffee tastes buttery. I find it best to drink when the coffee is piping hot - the more it cools off the more it tastes like butter to me, and the coffee taste is gone.


    Maybe put it in a French Press and let it steep longer? Or use more. I know that it's recommended to get the coffee oils out so you could always pour it through a filter as you pour it into the blender.
  • Just use less butter and drink more of it and/or don't add extra water to the espresso maybe?
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  • I have yet to purchase MCT oil, (but plan to) so I use a nice over-full tablespoon of coconut oil and roughly the same of butter.



    For fun the last couple days I went with my extra large coffee cup from Disneyland, and although it is sweet when worry free frothing, (no spill over due to its size) it leaves way too much of that oily-buttery goodness like wax on the inside of the cup due to cooling so fast. Time to switch back to a more classic sized cup.



    Is MCT oil as great as I hear? I sure love the coconut oil/Kerrygold unsalted butter/coffee combo taste-wise, and it does suppress my appetite until around noon or 1pm. I have lost close to 20 lbs I'd guess due to this morning ritual and the extended fasting it brings with it.
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  • I know it says unsalted butter but I accidental bought lightly Salted org grass fed butter. However it does say it uses Celtic sea salt so I wonder if that makes it ok or even more optimal since he's a proponent of salt, sea salt or Himalayan salt especially.
  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭✭


    I know it says unsalted butter but I accidental bought lightly Salted org grass fed butter. However it does say it uses Celtic sea salt so I wonder if that makes it ok or even more optimal since he's a proponent of salt, sea salt or Himalayan salt especially.


    You are good to go.
    Is MCT oil as great as I hear? I sure love the coconut oil/Kerrygold unsalted butter/coffee combo taste-wise, and it does suppress my appetite until around noon or 1pm.
    I don't get it how you guys can do coconut oil in your coffee. I just... don't get it. Anyhow, MCT is pretty much tasteless. So if you like coconut oil, it'll be different.



    The unique property is that you'll get more ketones (and faster) from MCT than from coconut oil. It's also somewhat of a trick to fuel your brain with ketones while eating carbs at a level which would not necessarily put you in ketosis. This is actually an ingenious trick if you ask me, particularly if you are properly fat-adapted. MCT is what makes BPC truly biohacked. Butter is just for energy in comparison.
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