Bulletproof Magnesium Thread

John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
edited April 2015 in General Discussion

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Magnesium is essential to your digestive health. Magnesium is used as some of the building blocks of the body’s digestive enzymes. It is also used by the colon as an osmotic laxative. Magnesium also helps keep the intestines from contracting too frequently as well.


 


Majority of Americans are deficient in Magnesium (could be as high as 80%), and this will cause the already epidemic of diabetes and heart disease to explode! Now you have probably had a magnesium blood test in your adult life and the test results came back as normal. Well don't feel relived just yet! Your body's total magnesium that is reflected on the results of the blood test is only about 2%, and your body does whatever it can to keep this level normal. If this level isn’t maintained you could suffer from heart arrhythmia and even possibly have a heart attack! Majority of Americans are deficient in magnesium, in their bones, organs and even on a cellular level. The only way to get an adequate count of total magnesium is to have your doctor order a magnesium EXA test.


Magnesium is important in over 300 enzyme reactions in the body. It also helps regulate blood sugar in the body. It also helps to relax the muscles including blood vessels. It also chelates extra Calcium in the body; this keeps the arteries from hardening due to excess calcium. Magnesium can also help lower blood pressure as well as help with anxiety.


 


There are many types of magnesium and each has its own functions, but the best form I can recommend is Magnesium Glycinate. You absorb the most elemental magnesium from Glycinate. The extra Glycine also as an amino acid helps relax nerves and muscles, and helps relieve anxiety.


 


Tests for Magnesium Deficiency


 


Magnesium Serum Test – This is the most common magnesium test preformed and also the most inaccurate. Less that 1% of the body’s total magnesium is in the blood plasma and the body does whatever it takes to keep that number regular. If you score low on a plasma test then you are in dire need of magnesium and you are definitely deficient in your bones, organs and muscles.


 


Magnesium RBC Test – This is a better test that quantifies the amount of magnesium stored in your blood cells and bones. You want a score greater than 6mg/dl to assure good magnesium reserves stored in your body.


 


Magnesium EXA Test – This is the best test to determine magnesium deficiency. Your cheek buccal cells are scraped for this test so that levels of magnesium stored in your cells, bones and muscles can be determined.This is the most accurate test for magnesium available.


 


Different Forms of Magnesium



Best forms of Magnesium:


Magnesium Glycinate - The most bioavailable form of Magnesium. The extra glycine as an amino acid can help with sleep and feeling calm. Least likely to cause loose stools. Taken at Bedtime.


Magnesium Malate - Magnesium malate is important for people who have a lot of fatigue or suffer from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Magnesium Malate should be taken during the day with meals. The extra malic acid will increase stomach acid and assimilation.


Magnesium Chloride - Magnesium Chloride is one of the best forms of magnesium for people with Gerd or stomach problems. It must be taken with food because the extra chloride will definitely make extra HCL in the stomach. Can also be used topically as a spray.


Magnesium Taurate - Magnesium Taurate is a lifesaver for people with heart disease. The extra taurine as an amino acid helps the heart function better. Taken at Bedtime.


Magnesium Citrate - Magnesium Citrate should mostly only be used for bowel irrigation, but it is an okay form of magnesium. It should also be taken with meals because the extra citric acid will increase stomach acid and assimilation. The only citrate I recommend is Natural Calm.


Magnesium Sulfate - Honestly only used to stop pre-eclampsia and used in bath salts as epsom salt. Has okay absorptivity but does leave some extra organic sulfur in the body Can be absorbed by the skin. Can help heal muscle sprains better than other forms because of skin permeability. Taken soaking in a bath or before bed.


Magnesium Arginate - The extra Arginine is good for increasing blood flow. Very good for bodybuilders. Taken with meals throughout the day due to the possibility of increased energy.


Magnesium Lysinate - A good source of magnesium and the amino acid lysine. Lysine is an excellent anti-viral. Taken before bed.


Magnesium Ascorbate - A good source of magnesium and vitamin C. Can cause some loose stools. Taken before bed.


Magnesium ZMK- A great form of magnesium that uses magnesium from all of the krebs cycle: Citrate, Fumarate, Malate, Succinate & Alpha-Keto-Glutarate. This supplement form of magnesium ZMK is great for athletes very good for recovery. Taken with Meals, if is the actual ZMK supplement taking before bed because it is a complete supplement.


Magnesium Fumerate, Succinate, Alpha-Keto Glutarate - See Magnesium ZMK, All Krebs Cycle forms of magnesium.


Magnesium Carbonate - Probably the least likely form of magnesium I can recommend. Has one of lower forms of absorability and makes a good laxative. Taken at Bedtime.

Magnesium With Special Uses:


Magnesium Orotate - This is one least known forms of magnesium but let me tell you if you just had a surgery or exercise a lot then it will be your godsend. The extra orotate will help muscle regeneration. Take if only for a short time though the extra ortate will increase uric acid levels, and women should stay away from it since it can be mutagenic (Only found as a possibility in rats in vivo, rats are different biologically than humans) . Taken at Bedtime.


Magnesium L-Threonate - Not enough In Vivo research yet but may greatly increase magnesium in the brain and spinal column for increase cognitive function. L-Threonate is an isomer of ascorbic acid. *New research has shown that it increases it about the same as Magnesium Sulfate, granted magnesium sulfate is injected though? Taken at Bedtime.


 


Magnesium 2-AEP - This is a form of magnesium that is chelated with phosphorylethanolamine which is a vital component of the structure and integrity of cell membranes. Has been theorized to help patients with MS because it can help with cellular function and integrity and can help protect myelin. It has been implicated in possibly suppressing the immune system. Taken with meals during the day.


Magnesium Peroxide - ONLY AS COLON CLEANSER. Taken before bed.

Garbage forms of Magnesium:


Most of these forms of magnesium are garbage because they either do damage in the body or are very poorly absorbed. Magnesium Asparate has extra aspartic acid which even though it is an amino acid, too much aspartic acid has been believed to be neurotoxic (Granted all of "the man" studies show that an increase of the aspartic acid level in the body isn't harmful). Magnesium Hydroxide and Magnesium Oxide aren't recommended because they are poorly absorbed. Magnesium Lactate can cause and increase in lactic acid buildup therefore not recommended.


Magnesium Aspartate - Absorption isn't worth extra Aspartic Acid. Too much Aspartic Acid is neurotoxic. Can you say ASPARTAME? Taken at bedtime. This includes magnesium ZMA supplements.


Magnesium Pidolate - Absorption is DEFINATELY not worth the extra free glutamic acid. Too much free glutamic acid can be excitotoxic and neurotoxic. Can you say MSG? Taken with meals.


Magnesium Hydroxide - Not greatly absorbed most magnesium is released into the bowels. Most commercial preparations (Milk of Magnesium) have sodium hypochlorite added (bleach). Taken at Bedtime.


Magnesium Oxide - VERY POORLY ABSORBED - out of 400 mg only AT MOST 80 mg of magnesium absorbed by the body. The worst form of magnesium. Taken at Bedtime.


Magnesium Lactate - Lactic Acid is FUN! Not taken at all.


 


Magnesium in Food Intake


 


Magnesium has to be supplemented because even if you eat a perfect diet you would still have to eat a ton of nuts, brown rice, avocados, and spinach to keep from developing a deficiency. To even get around 400 mg a day you would have to eat one cup of cooked spinach (157 mg), 1 ounce of pumpkin seeds (150 mg), 1 avocado (56 mg), and 1 cup of cooked brown rice (86 mg) a day on average (449 mg of magnesium total). These amounts also don't count the magnesium bonded to phytic acid in the pumpkin seeds, in the brown rice, and individual intestinal absorption of magnesium for different patients.


 


So to be conservative let's say that after a patient ate all this food they only absorbed 300 mg of magnesium from the food. Imagine if you had to take in 1,000 mg of magnesium daily. You would have to intake 3 cups of cooked spinach, 3 ounces of pumpkin seeds, 3 avocados, and 3 cups of brown rice throughout the day. Good luck!


 


Because of common sense, most people would argue that since ancient man didn't take in much magnesium through food as much as modern man, why do we need to supplement it at all or in such large amounts? A few theories have been mentioned to answer this question one of those theories is that the water ancient man drank had a higher concentration of magnesium in it. Because water had a greater magnesium concentration so did the plants, nuts, and animal meat and bones that ancient man consumed in their diet. Also since ancient man wasn't under as much stress as modern man seems to be, their bodies don't magnesium waste quite as much and were able to hang on to more magnesium on a cellular level.


 


Oral Magnesium Supplementation


 


Magnesium is a natural antiacid unless the magnesium is chelated with an acid or a chelation that simulates production of HCL in the stomach. For this reason I have broken up the different magnesium's, and if they should be taken before bed or with a meal.


The general magnesium protocol for a patient that weighs greater than 100 pounds is that they should take at least 600 mg of elemental magnesium for 4-6 months, then 400 mg thereafter. If a patient weighs less than 100 pounds, 600 mg of elemental magnesium should be taken for 2 months, and then 400 mg thereafter. This isn't the optimal amount of magnesium that a patient should take daily, but this is a good standard protocol to follow.


The amount of magnesium taken by a patient depends on their weight. The average basis for good magnesium cellular saturation is between 7 mg - 10 mg per kilogram a day. This means the ideal amount for a patient who is 200 pounds is about 800 mg of magnesium a day.


 


If a patient has kidney disease their magnesium intake needs to be greatly monitored, since good kidney function is needed to excrete excess magnesium.


 


Transdermal Magnesium Supplementation


 


Transdermal magnesium can be very important if you want to quickly raise intercellular levels of magnesium in your body. Oral magnesium supplementation can take 6-10 months to properly raise your magnesium levels to a normal range. Transdermal supplementation on the other hand can take only 3-4 months. Taking epsom salt baths twice a day, can be one way to increase transdermal supplementation. The best way to use transdermal magnesium is to use a magnesium gel like MagneGel. MagneGel delivers approximately 150mg of elemental magnesium per 1/4 teaspoon to the skin, or about the size of a nickel. I would suggest applying 900mg-1,200mg transdermal daily.


 


Both Oral And Transdermal Supplementation


 


The best option is to use both oral and transdermal supplementation. I would take 400 mg of elemental oral magnesium daily, and use MagneGel once or twice a day. This way you would get around 1,000-1,400 mg of total magnesium intake a day.


 


Magnesium Dosage Based On Weight and Sex


 


All of these magnesium dose recommendations are for a person that weighs roughly 200 pounds (1,000 mg daily). If you weigh 100 pounds, I would divide the total magnesium intake daily to around 600-800 mg of magnesium a day to increase magnesium levels. If you weigh more than 350 pounds you might want to increase daily magnesium intake to about 1,400 mg, as long as you have adequate kidney function. Women who are ovulating might want to increase their magnesium by about 150-200 mg daily when they are on their periods.


 


Building Magnesium Levels, When to Test, and Maintenance Dosage


 


I would suggest that anyone wanting to supplement their magnesium to have their EXA levels tested first. If your magnesium is low then follow the recommendations from the guide above. Depending on how low your level of stored magnesium is, is how long you should take magnesium at these levels. If you levels are low you should supplement for about three to six months and then test your magnesium again.


 


If your magnesium levels are normal you should take a daily supplementation of elemental magnesium of about 400 - 600 mg daily. Even if your magnesium levels are normal, and you have a specific medical reason to increase your magnesium above these levels (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Nerve Damage, and Brain Trauma are some examples), you should be fine to increase supplementation as long as you have adequate kidney function. You will need to get your magnesium levels tested frequently (every 2-3 months), to make sure hypermagnesemia doesn't occur.


 


Hypermagnesemia


 


Hypermagnesemia is a rare condition in which a person has too much magnesium in their blood plasma. This usually doesn't happen in patients that take supplemental magnesium, but it can happen if a person has inadequate kidney function. It usually happens in patients with poor kidney function and patients that receive an overdose of IV magnesium. Rarely, supplemental magnesium causes hypermagnesemia, this is because the kidneys are very good at excreting excess magnesium.


 


Diagnostic symptoms are usually a combination of low blood sugar and high calcium. Symptoms usually include weakness, vomiting, impaired breathing, hypotension, increased blood calcium levels, arrhythmia, lack of muscle reflexes, and bradycardia (slow heart rate). It is possible that if one's plasma magnesium level is too high the heart can stop causing an "heart attack". This is because magnesium is a muscle relaxant, but this outcome is extremely rare.


 


Treatment for hypermagnesemia includes giving IV calcium gluconate to inactivate and bind to the excess magnesium. The calcium also reactivates the muscle cells because calcium is a muscle stimulator. Finally, dialysis might be needed in some cases to eliminate excess magnesium and to help with kidney function.


 


Brands of Magnesium I Recommend



Best Glycinate: Pure Encapsulations Magnesium Glycinate / Other Recommendations: Designs for Health Magnesium Glycinate, Douglas Labs Magnesium Glycinate

Best Malate: Jigsaw Magnesium Malate / Other Recommendations: Now Magnesium Malate, Jarrow Formulas Magnesium Optimizer Malate, Source Naturals Magnesium Malate

Best Citrate: Natural Calm / Other Recommendations: Pure Encapsulations Magnesium Citrate, Now Magnesium Citrate, Source Naturals Magnesium Citrate

Best Chloride: Trace Minerals Research Ionic Magnesium

Best Peroxide: New Earth Oxy-C Magnesium Peroxide

Best Ascorbate: Now Magnesium Ascorbate Powder

Best Orotate: Advanced Reasearch Magnesium Orotate

Best Taurate: Cardiovascular Research Magnesium Taurate

Best Dermal Magnesium: Designs for Health MagneGel


Best Magnesium Sulfate: Epsoak Empsom Salt, Kirkman Magnesium Sulfate Cream


Best 2AEP: Advanced Research 2AEP Magnesium


Best Arginate: Advanced Research Magnesium Arginate with Aspartate (It's the only one I can find, but it does have aspartate in it, use sparingly)


Best Lysinate: Doctor's Best High Absorption Magnesium

Best Magnesium L-Threonate: Life Extension Magnesium L-Threonate / Other Recommendations: Jarrow Formulas MagMind

Best Magnesium "Blend": Solaray Vegan Magnesium / Other Recommendations: Source Naturals Ultra Mag

Best Magnesium for Athletes: ZMK Supplement


 


Magnesium References


 


Dean, Carolyn. The Magnesium Miracle, Ballantine Books, December 26, 2006.


 


Seelig, Mildred / Rosanoff, Andrea. The Magnesium Factor, Avery Trade,

August 25, 2003.


 


Sircus, Mark / Reid, Daniel. Transdermal Magnesium Therapy, Phaelos


Books & Mediawerks, January 1, 2007.


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  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Fantastic post, thanks.



    So, let's do the practical bit by as well image/icon_e_smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smile:' />



    Dave's suggestion: http://www.vrp.com/minerals/opti-mag (as 50% magnesium succinate, 17% magnesium taurinate, 17% magnesium malate and 16% magnesium aspartate) - at 5 caps per day = $19/mo.



    Let's see if we can find something cheaper:



    Glycinate http://www.iherb.com...0-Tablets/16567 - 6 tabs = $14/mo.

    Glycinate http://www.iherb.com...ggie-Caps/21315 - 6 caps - $20/mo.



    Malate http://www.iherb.com...0-Tablets/19154 - 5 tabs - $9/mo.



    Citrate http://www.iherb.com...lm&x=0&y=0#none - 7.5g = $12/mo.
  • TJ JTJ J skratta pa klocka
    I don't see chelate on this list.



    Tell me what you think of this magnesium supplement...



    MegaMagnesium: Made by Terry Naturally: Ingredients read like this: per capsule



    Magnesium (from amino acid chelate, citrate, and malate) 400 mg + Malic Acid 222 mg.



    I only take one before bed.
  • Jason MillerJason Miller Mother nature isn't stupid mod
    I bought a bottle of magnesium citrate just for fun to see what happens, took 7x 150mg pills, absolutely nothing happened, slightly disappointed.
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  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭
    edited February 2013
    'Troy wrote:


    I don't see chelate on this list.
    That's cause Mg-Glycinate is a chelate in your sup. It's a bond type.


    'Jason wrote:


    I bought a bottle of magnesium citrate just for fun to see what happens, took 7x 150mg pills, absolutely nothing happened, slightly disappointed.
    Lucky you =)
  • StevoStevo Upgrade in Progress
    'NDJohn' wrote:


    Magnesium Orotate - This is one least known forms of magnesium but let me tell you if you just had a surgery or exercise a lot then it will be your godsend. The extra orotate will help muscle regeneration. Take if only for a short time though the extra ortate will increase uric acid levels, and women should stay away from it since it can be mutagenic. Taken at Bedtime.


    Hmmm, this is concerning to me. Do you have any references for the mutagenic effects in women?
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    Powerful NDJohn!

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭


    Hmmm, this is concerning to me. Do you have any references for the mutagenic effects in women?




    The mutagenic studies were in rats and the study deduced that it could in theory but no mutagenic properties found. http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/doc/1187.pdf

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  • Hi NDJohn, two quick Follow-up questions for you on this:



    1.) is the amount of recommended Mag glycinate the same for all body weights?

    2.) do you recommend taking at bed time with potassium, or alone?



    Thanks a lot.
  • ND John,





    Thanks for th info. What are your thoughts about which magnesium source wold be best for endurance pursuits and athletic performace. Right now I rotate between calm and malate. Dr. Jack Kruse reccomends and takes Malate before bedtime with some Potassium.
  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    'tipitai' wrote:


    Hi NDJohn, two quick Follow-up questions for you on this:



    1.) is the amount of recommended Mag glycinate the same for all body weights?

    2.) do you recommend taking at bed time with potassium, or alone?



    Thanks a lot.




    1. For the most part yes, unless you weigh less than 100 pounds then maybe 400mg would be the safest to do. If you weight greater than 300, add 100 mg for every 100 pounds of weight.

    2. Depends on the type of magnesium listed in my guide is when it should be taken. Why with potassium the average bulletproof should get enough anyway. Also magnesium is complimented with calcium not potassium. Calcium as a supplement for the most part really isn't needed but 500 mg of calcium citrate can be taken twice a day.

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    'Matty wrote:


    ND John,





    Thanks for th info. What are your thoughts about which magnesium source wold be best for endurance pursuits and athletic performace. Right now I rotate between calm and malate. Dr. Jack Kruse reccomends and takes Malate before bedtime with some Potassium.




    Potassium should be in the form of a cup of coconut water mixed with 1/8 tsp of sea salt. Glycinate is the best before bed, Malate and Calm should be taken with a meal because they increase stomach acid, and malate gives energy. What type of athlete are you? Weight lifters should use Magnesium Arginate. Endurance should use ZMK before bed, Magnesium oratate should be used when over strenuous exercise is done or in pain.

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  • 'NDJohn' wrote:


    Also magnesium is complimented with calcium not potassium. Calcium as a supplement for the most part really isn't needed but 500 mg of calcium citrate can be taken twice a day.




    Just double checking, so is it ok for me to drink my milk and Magnesium Citrate before I go to bed?. Because I have seen it everywhere about taking Potassium with your Magnesium and also seen it somewhere that Calcium inhibits Magnesium.
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  • TJ JTJ J skratta pa klocka
    edited February 2013
    Doubled my magnesium and started potassium after a long ski trip today. I feel like I can eat 10-30 g less carbs after a long ski trip and recover at a faster rate or equal rate if I take the mag+potassium. I started a new magnesium oratate.



    What kind of magnesium would you suggest for my cousin, he's a double a baseball pitcher. He is working out like 2-4 hours almost every day doing different kinds of exercises and drills. They eat a lot of carbs from fruits, vegetables, and 1 diluted sports drink a day. I'm helping him get ready and we are trying to get his stacks in order.
  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    'Troy wrote:


    Doubled my magnesium and started potassium after a long ski trip today. I feel like I can eat 10-30 g less carbs after a long ski trip and recover at a faster rate or equal rate if I take the mag+potassium. I started a new magnesium oratate.



    What kind of magnesium would you suggest for my cousin, he's a double a baseball pitcher. He is working out like 2-4 hours almost every day doing different kinds of exercises and drills. They eat a lot of carbs from fruits, vegetables, and 1 diluted sports drink a day. I'm helping him get ready and we are trying to get his stacks in order.




    4 ZMK - 2 at breakfast, 2 at lunch. Good also for building test.

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  • suntouchersuntoucher Uninspired Potential ✭✭
    What is wrong with Mg lactate?



    Also - can you elaborate on why do you need to take potassium with Mg? And dosages?
  • RodRod The Rodfather
    'Ron wrote:


    Potassium should be in the form of a cup of coconut water mixed with 1/8 tsp of sea salt. Glycinate is the best before bed, Malate and Calm should be taken with a meal because they increase stomach acid, and malate gives energy. What type of athlete are you? Weight lifters should use Magnesium Arginate. Endurance should use ZMK before bed, Magnesium oratate should be used when over strenuous exercise is done or in pain.




    Thank you so much for your time and effort. I had to ask a question at this point, why should Potassium be in the form of a cup of coconut water with Sea salt? This is instead of Potassium Citrate right?

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  • KimKim
    edited February 2013
    Thank you for the comprehensive list. May I ask from where you gathered this information? Any particular sources, or just your own knowledge?



    Also, how does this brand of magnesium citrate (+potassium and taurine) rate?
  • Andy BoskampAndy Boskamp Andy Boskamp
    I have been taking 600 mg of mag citrate before bed, but I weight under 100 lbs... is this too much.

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  • edited February 2013
    Thanks for the warning on Mag Aspartate. I've been experimenting with ZMA, which has aspartate. I'll toss the stuff.
  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    'Kim' wrote:


    Thank you for the comprehensive list. May I ask from where you gathered this information? Any particular sources, or just your own knowledge?



    Also, how does this brand of magnesium citrate (+potassium and taurine) rate?




    Own research, what brand? Some borrowed from the Magnesium Miracle By: Dr. Dean I have read.

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    'Rod' wrote:


    Thank you so much for your time and effort. I had to ask a question at this point, why should Potassium be in the form of a cup of coconut water with Sea salt? This is instead of Potassium Citrate right?




    Coconut water has the correct ratio of sodium to potassium and has even been used IV to increase blood plasma. Sometimes getting minerals from foods than from supplements is a better thing. Also all potassium in the United States unless prescription is limited to 99mg a capsule.

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭


    I have been taking 600 mg of mag citrate before bed, but I weight under 100 lbs... is this too much.




    Depends for how long, how much calcium in your diet, what brand magnesium citrate?

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭


    Just double checking, so is it ok for me to drink my milk and Magnesium Citrate before I go to bed?. Because I have seen it everywhere about taking Potassium with your Magnesium and also seen it somewhere that Calcium inhibits Magnesium.




    Calcium and Magnesium work together, now they inhibit each other in the muscle cells (it's their cellular job) but they are to be taken together in a two to one ratio. I would not drink milk before you go to bed, all that casein and lactose.

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭


    What is wrong with Mg lactate?



    Also - can you elaborate on why do you need to take potassium with Mg? And dosages?




    Extra Lactate outside of what the body needs during the Krebs Cycle, causes excess lactic acid.



    Magnesium helps the body absorb potassium, but mainly only if one's potassium is low, magnesium is needed. It doesn't even work as well as the synergy between Vitamin C and Iron if that is what most people think.



    This whole potassium / magnesium mainly comes from hospitals giving both during cardiac problems.

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  • Jason MillerJason Miller Mother nature isn't stupid mod
    edited February 2013
    Nevermind
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    Update

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  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    'Jason wrote:


    Nevermind




    ?

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  • Jason MillerJason Miller Mother nature isn't stupid mod
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  • Pierre EklundPierre Eklund pierre.eklund@gmail.com
    edited February 2013
    What about Succinate? Found one called Magnesium optimal by Helhetshälsa, it contains magnesiumcitrate, magnesiumglycinate and magnesiumsuccinat, in a veggie cap that I think I'll throw away.
    Please email me instead of PM

    pierre.eklund@gmail.com
  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭
    'Pierre wrote:


    What about Succinate? Found one called Magnesium optimal by Helhetshälsa, it contains magnesiumcitrate, magnesiumglycinate and magnesiumsuccinat, in a veggie cap that I think I'll throw away.




    Succinate is fine just part of the krebs cycle

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