Bulletproof Coffee In Europe

Hey guys,



I've been reading the blog for a while and I tried BulletProof (sort of) Coffee for the first time today. It was great. The only issue is finding good quality coffee where I live - Bulgaria. I tried ordering from upgraded self but the final cost for shipment + customs/VAT is around $80 on top of the $75 for the 5LBs and that's too expencive right now. I was wondering.. can someone recommend a local supplier (EU) that would ship high quality coffee beans. I've got all the other ingridients - Kerry's gold was difficult to find but I got it and we have quite affordable Coconut Oil..but good coffee is nowhere to be found image/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />



Thanks

Jimmy
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  • Hey,



    this Dutch supplier http://www.simonlevelt.nl/ ships to most European countries for 17,50€. They don't have an english site as far as I know but their customer service speaks english. I asked them: they offer 3 coffees which would match most Bulletproof Coffee requirements (asked them for wet processed, grown in higher elevation, no blend and organic/certificates). They don't test for mycotoxins though.



    http://www.simonlevelt.nl/koffie/koffie/cafetiere/finca-el-volcan/ (Guatemala) non-organic

    http://www.simonlevelt.nl/koffie/koffie/cafetiere/finca-irlanda/ (Mexico) organic

    http://www.simonlevelt.nl/koffie/koffie/filter/finca-el-limoncillo/ (Nicaragua) non-organic



    All of them are described as flavourful and mild.

    Haven't tried them out yet but gonna buy them tomorrow in the store here. I'll give you an update on their effects image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />.
  • Hey Julian!



    Thanks a lot for the quick reply - I really appreciate it! The website looks promising and the pricing is much more acceptable + being in the EU I won't have to pay import taxes and spend an hour in customs image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Looking forward to the update image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • Hey,



    here's the preliminary update. I didn't drink much coffee during the last few days because I had trouble falling asleep anyways. So I just tried each coffee once or twice. Used my french press and drank the coffee black. Still looking for the right dose of butter & MCT oil for me, or maybe I should try Betaine HCL/Lipase, but haven't done anything about that yet because the caffeine is also too much atm image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />.



    This http://www.simonleve...inca-el-volcan/ really lifted my mental clarity, awareness etc.. without jittery or other negative effects after about 500ml of black coffee. Tastes mild, not acidic, not bitter, but also not really flavourful. Most bulletproof for now.

    http://www.simonleve.../finca-irlanda/ Only tried once, was ok so far. Rather acidic. Have to try some more cups.

    http://www.simonleve...-el-limoncillo/ This tasted best but it didn't make me feel great and I woke up feeling extremely sluggish the morning afterwards image/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />. I drank it in late afternoon though.



    No viable recommendations for now as there are a couple other variables involved. But if I had to choose one I would choose http://www.simonleve...inca-el-volcan/

    If you need help ordering something from the site, feel free to ask.
  • Hey Julian,



    Seems like the first coffee is just the one I need I really need the mental clarity right now image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Thanks for doing the research for me. I'm going to order strait away image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    Regards,

    Jimmy
  • Julian<

    This looks very promising, thanks!

    Being from central Europe, had difficulties finding good coffee here.



    Will go for your recommended Volcano image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • Living in Hamburg, Germany this is the place I got some awesome coffee beans from: http://www.quijote-kaffee.de/shop/



    I am sure they post EU wide.
  • This one is also pretty good for mailorder in EU.



    http://ganosshop.de/
  • edited May 2012
    'Julian wrote:


    Hey,



    this Dutch supplier http://www.simonlevelt.nl/ ships to most European countries for 17,50€. ...................... they offer 3 coffees which would match most Bulletproof Coffee requirements (asked them for wet processed, grown in higher elevation, no blend and organic/certificates). They don't test for mycotoxins though............


    Well, I live in Holland and I've talked to these people of Levelt, and this was their answer:



    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" Naar aanleiding van uw vraag m.b.t. mycotoxine vrije koffie berichten wij u het volgende.[/font]



    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ochratoxine A (OTA) is een bekende mycotoxine die op koffiebonen voor kan komen. De wettelijk toegestane hoeveelheid OTA in gebrande koffie is 5ppb (=5microgram/kg). Wij laten jaarlijks een aantal willekeurige koffies op OTA analyseren en er is nog nooit een te hoge concentratie OTA gevonden. In de praktijk betekend dit vaak dat er dan minder 0.5 ppb OTA in zit en dus niet gegarandeerd 0.0 ppb, omdat het niet mogelijk is om kleinere hoeveelheden te meten. Daarnaast controleren wij het vochtgehalte van alle groene bonen voordat ze gebrand worden, omdat een te hoog vochtgehalte kan leiden tot groei van schimmels en gisten die verantwoordelijk zijn voor de vorming van mycotoxines.[/font]

    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Naast koffie kunnen er op alle soorten gewassen mycotoxines voorkomen, die niet afgebroken kunnen worden door koken of invriezen. De belangrijkste manier waarop mensen echter worden blootgesteld aan mycotoxinen is in hun huizen door het inademen van de mycotoxinen die in de lucht zitten.[/font]



    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ook Upgraded Coffee kan niet ‘100% Mycotoxine vrij’ garanderen door de wijze waarop ze produceren en noemen het dan ook ‘gereduceerd ’omdat ze geen productiestap hebben die alle mycotoxines volledig kan afbreken. Tijdens het roosteren van bonen is de blootstelling aan de hoge temperatuur namelijk onvoldoende om alle van nature aanwezige mycotoxines en schimmelsporen gegarandeerd af te breken. Door een langere blootstelling aan deze temperatuur zou de koffie echter verbranden waardoor deze niet meer te drinken is en er andere giftige stoffen gevormd worden.[/font]



    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mycotoxines kunnen op ook na de pluk en bewerking vanuit de omgeving op de groene boon terecht komen tijdens opslag. De beschreven productiemethode van Upgraded Coffee heet ‘wet processing’, wat wij ‘gewassen koffie’ of ‘natte methode’ noemen. Simon Levelt koopt altijd hoge standaard (grade 1 of 2, waaronder ook gewassen) koffies in bij bedrijven die we kennen en zelf bezoeken.[/font]

    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]De Sipi Falls is bijvoorbeeld een ‘gewassen koffie’ die wij verkopen in één van onze Simon Lévelt winkels of te bestellen via onze website www.simonlevelt.com."[/font]



    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And you may have this translated by Google. But the essence is that nobody can guarantee that food is 100% free of mycotoxins, because the measure methods are not that accurate and even after a whole perfect production process mycotoxines may appear. [/font]



    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I've ordered bullet proof coffee, (and of course ver expensive shipping and handling costs and customs), but in the meantime I use their "Sipi Falls" image/icon_razz.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-P' />[/font]
  • Thanks for sharing. George, you've got a somewhat (entirely) different response image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />. Gonna try the "Sipi Falls" image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • edited May 2012
    More coffee from this producer, which have very low Mycotoxins (according to one of the Helpdesk people) :





    · Gayo Mountain (Indonesie)

    · Finca El Limoncillo (Nicaragua)

    · Mocha Limu (Ethiopie)

    · Supremo (Colombia)

    · El Volcan (guatemala)

    · Finca Irlanda (mexico)



    The guy had by the way some interesting studies; they completely deny that MCT oil or coffee have fat reducing effects:

    ‘A cause and effect relationship has not been established between the consumption of MCTs and reduction in body weight’read the article here: http://www.efsa.euro...al/doc/2240.pdf





    and:

    Scientific Opinion on the substantiation of health claims related to caffeine and increased fat oxidation leading to a reduction in body fat mass: http://www.efsa.euro...al/doc/2054.pdf



    I wonder what Dave has to say about that.........
  • 'ahoi' wrote:


    Living in Hamburg, Germany this is the place I got some awesome coffee beans from: http://www.quijote-kaffee.de/shop/



    I am sure they post EU wide.




    nice to see someone from Hamburg,Germany here - that's where I live image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I just found this site... will try several local options and report back.



    Coffee Circle in Berlin (www.coffee-circle.com) has some great very mild organic coffee but quite pricey. Right now I am using my last regular espresso beans and a bag of Jamaica Blue Mountain a friend gave me, after that it's probably Kenia AA+ from Becking or something similar.



    To the original poster: you might look for something like Malabar monsooned or Malabar gold, or Kenya AA++, or Tanzania coffee in your area. Make sure it's washed (lavado = wet-processed) if you buy South American (Guatemala Hard Bean is pretty good). buy small quantities and check what works for you.
  • Hi everyone in the EU, you can now get original Bulletproof coffee direct from the UK at Stevia-shop.co.uk - at £15



    http://stevia-shop.co.uk/?page=details&prod=36&cat=9&page_id=46
  • Hey,



    Got the Bulletproof coffee from the Stevia-shop. It took a little while, but I'd order from them again.



    Anyone have a recommendation for a site to order supplements from? I'm in Paris for a few more months and the availability isn't great here (the highest dose of D3 I found is 400 IU per pill).



    Thanks
  • 'Whiltman' wrote:


    Hey,



    Got the Bulletproof coffee from the Stevia-shop. It took a little while, but I'd order from them again.



    Anyone have a recommendation for a site to order supplements from? I'm in Paris for a few more months and the availability isn't great here (the highest dose of D3 I found is 400 IU per pill).



    Thanks




    I get nearly all my supplements from Amazon. They seem to be pretty good on prices too.
  • I tried both El Volcan and Bulletproof Coffee. It is cheaper, but bulletproof coffee is way better quality. They smell different, I feel better on bulletproof coffee, and the beans are of excellent quality. Almost no broken beans, all very clean, neat; while the El Volcan is not so consistent.
  • Experimental foodie or anyone else have suggestions for which coffee to buy from Coffee Circle in Berlin or any other places in Berlin? Going over there tomorrow but nervous about getting the funny face when I ask for bulletproof coffee...

    Jake George Schuster

     

    BSc, CSCS, CPT

    @CoolHandJakeGS

    WellTraveledWellness.com 

     

    "No man was ever wise by chance. As long as you live, keep learning how to live". 

    --Seneca

  • 'Jake wrote:


    Experimental foodie or anyone else have suggestions for which coffee to buy from Coffee Circle in Berlin or any other places in Berlin? Going over there tomorrow but nervous about getting the funny face when I ask for bulletproof coffee...




    Yeah... Food engineers don't know what wet process is in Turkey. Seriously I'm calling everywhere. Sad that won't be able to drink coffee to lose fat.

    I would go with stevia-shop. Unfortunately we can't get coffee through the customs. This website is golden for Europeans I think.
  • Coffee Circle carries Ethiopian singles as well as one blend variety. Their batches are natural (=dry processed) which means that it's not bulletproof. Give it a shot though.They focus heavily on environmental and sustainability issues.



    If you have time, give 'One Chapter' a visit - they are very professional with a touch of Berlin hip style.



    I wonder whether stevia-shop.co.uk can order green beans from Dave - great for some home roasting experimentation.

    It would be interesting to know what the time span starting at date of roasting of BP coffee to actually using it at home. Anything longer than 2/3 weeks for roasted beans and their flavour gets very pale.
  • Hi, thanks for all the info. I am going to try the sipi falls from simonlevelt.com! Bedankt :) Now I am going to see if Nespresso has some low toxins coffee....


  • Get the upgraded stuff ;-)


    Katolotus

    MMA Fighter

     

    SUCCESS: A lot of little things done well

  • Found bulletproof coffee on the menu at a Paleo restaurant in Copenhagen, Denmark. Coconut oil and butter, no MCT though. Just sayin.

    ~ The Universe goes inward just as much as it goes outward ~

     

  • Not bulletproof without MCT oil ;-)


    Katolotus

    MMA Fighter

     

    SUCCESS: A lot of little things done well

  • Yeah I know. I drink the real stuff at home but since this thread was about bulletproof coffee in Europe I was just saying that it was nice to see people are getting are getting down as far away as Denmark!!

    ~ The Universe goes inward just as much as it goes outward ~

     

  • Does Nespresso have low toxin coffee? I can't figure it out to be honest, and my parents only have a nespresso machine and a coffeepad machine.. 


  • hasbean.co.uk


     


    for UK


  • Someone knows about the nespresso?
  • edited December 2013

    Also, if I get this right, I can also buy beans from Simon Levelt, crush them myself, and use them in a filter? That would be a nice solution.


     


    Any opinions on the Sipi Falls? Thanks


  • I mailed Simon Levelt this morning to ask about washed coffee from Central America low in mycotoxins. They mailed me back, saying about mycotoxins that it was tested yadayada, according to the rules. So nothing helpful about that.


     


    They did recommend to me 3 brands of washed coffee. 


     


    Finca Irlanda (Mexico)


     


    Finca El Limoncillo (Nicaragua)


     


    Maragogype (Mexico)


     


    I did read earlier here about Sippi Falls which is also washed coffee, but this one is from Oeganda, and not from Central Amerika live Dave recommends. The Sippi Falls is located 1800m above sea level though. That said they also write about the other coffees that it is produced in high located places. All are organic. I am leaning towards the Finca Irlanda right now. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks


  • Onnit.com has the cheapest Upgraded 12 oz coffee and ships worldwide very cheap.


  • edited December 2013

    www.xbrain.co.uk 


     


    They have upgraded, onnit and more products and are based in the UK and for people within europe and especialy within the EU its the way to go due to the fast and cheep shipment with no import charge.


     


    They even have the  same garantee on onnit products that onnit have.


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