Mct Oil Makes Me Dizzy / Disgorge... What Does This Mean?

BPC, with only butter: No problem, once or twice per day.



BPC, with butter and MCT oil: No problem... once per day, for a couple of weeks... THEN I began feeling *a little* light-headed.

-- I always use 1 cup water, 1.5-to-2tbsp beans, 2tbsp "Garden of Life" coconut oil, and 2tbsp KG-Butter.



Once I felt a little light-headed in the morning from BPC with MCT, I then had another BPC with MCT after lunch that day, and that evening I felt horribe.

-- Dizzy, nauseous, eventually vomiting... I felt like the coffee "really went to my head"



I didn't realize the coffee caused that, so I had a 2nd cup a few days later, and the same thing happened, except this time I was able to avoid vomiting, and also A CONSPICUOUS "BURNING" ODOR caught my attention.

-- I realized that "burning smell" was almost certainly due to my body's saturation with MCT oil.



I recall that NOW Foods brand MCT oil had a strong burnt odor to it. The MCT oil sold here, has no odor... But... when feeling ill effects of too much MCT, the odor emerges through sweat glands, perhaps.



I've since had BP-coffee with only butter: No problem.



MCT Oil Toxicity? This is all I can find... I doubt I have any such disease.

http://www.health-n-sport.com/energy/mct_gold_medium_chain_triglyceride_oil_1_liter_33_8_fl_oz.htm

In people with advanced cirrhosis, large amounts of MCTs may cause increased amounts of medium chain fatty acids in the blood. This may be due to the compromised liver function and clearance of toxic materials from the liver. Increased amounts of fatty acids have been reported to be associated with reversible coma.



Is my observed MCT oil toxicity evidence of a larger physiological problem?
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  • If a liquid-state oil smells "off", and makes me nauseous after consuming even a little bit, I usually suspect that it has gone rancid. Have you been storing your MCT oil in the refrigerator? Solid-state coconut oil doesn't go rancid, but I think it is possible for liquid-state MCT oil to go rancid. If that is the case, throw it away, buy new stuff, and keep it in the refrigerator after opening.



    I am not a physician or nutritionist, though.
  • I don't have the Freidlander MCT oil in the fridge... It has no odor.



    NOW Foods MCT smelled bad when it was freshly opened. I poured it out, and am re-using its glass bottle.
  • SeanSean
    edited April 2012
    Turns out this effect was mostly from taking too much Huperzine-A.



    Without MCT oil, and with excessive (500+mcg) Huperzine-A, the dizziness was almost as bad, but the upset stomach was gone.



    An interaction between these two. For me anyway.
  • You were experiencing acetylcholine toxicity - the huperzine a is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. Lucky you figured that out. Long term excess acetylcholine can make you feel like crap for 6 months. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • Hey guys, so my wife experiences the same symptoms from even 1 tablespoon of MCT oil.



    It's unclear (to me): You were supplementing with Huperzine-A and that combined with the MCT oil is what was causing your problem? Is that accurate?



    If so, did ending your Huperzine-A supplement resolve your symptoms of sleepiness, dizziness, and nausea when taking MCT Oil?



    Does anyone have info on why one would feel sleepiness, dizziness, and nausea from 1 Tbl Spoon of MCT Oil (is that too much to start, should she just completely avoid it, what is going on in the body, etc etc)



    any help here would be appreciated.



    thanks Jeffrey
  • Turns out Hup-A magnified this effect, but isn't the primary source of it.



    No Hup-A, yet MCT oil still makes me dizzy, weak... Almost "faint", which is unusual -- I only feel this way when I eat hamburger meat with lots of fat in it and nothing else. But the dizziness is subtly different with MCT: I don't get the urge to eat carbs, nor would doing so instantly cure the weak/dizzy feeling as it does when this comes from a high-fat meal with protein but zero carbs.



    I haven't had any Huperzine-Alpha in MONTHS, and I took 1tbsp of MCT oil in coffee this morning (I drink coffee only once every couple weeks or so).



    I wonder if this is a gut-permeability issue.



    I've also seen here a mention of the antimicrobial effects of MCT, perhaps causing herxheimer reaction... But that seems less likely for me -- the parallels between MCT-dizziness and high-fat-meal-dizziness directs my suspicion toward hormone and dysglycemia issues.
  • Maybe stick to putting coconut oil in your coffee instead of MCT oil if you can process that better. Though I'm not sure how coconut flavored coffee tastes.
  • Coconut oil certainly tastes better, if it can be detected at all, and causes no disturbances in the force.



    Still, it'd be nice to benefit from MCT oil, with or without coffee.. But MCT oil always produces dizziness, nausea, and a uniquely upset though without any threat of vomiting. It's kind of a stomach-twisting feeling. I figure this is related to leaky-gut somehow -- I'm still recovering from eggs (and also some stuff in indian food) being the prime allergens that caused me chronic intestine inflammation.
  • I got nauseous when I put it in my whey drink in the evening. Works better with real food or in the morning. I guess my body has adapted now. Use 15ml for one cup of coffee. Drip it on food like meat/veggies or 15-30ml in sauces and Dave's soups.
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  • Apparently I'm not alone.  Feeling dizzy may diminish as the body / brain adapts to using more ketones....


    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=574899071


     


    I've experimented more and found that BOTH Coconut oil and MCT oil will make me dizzy.  Just takes more coconut oil to reproduce the MCT-->dizzy effect.


  • Hi Guys!


     


    I am not taking a Huperzine supplement.


     


    But, I get this strange dizzy feeling in my head -- not quite dizzy, something like light-headedness from MCT or Brain Octane in my coffee.



    What's up with that?  Anyone else??


  • Yeah, me too! I came on the forum specifically to ask this question. I've been following BP hacks for a couple of years but when I drink BP coffee with Brain Octane oil I get dizzy and light headed. Sometimes I need to lie down, lol! So, I have stalled on the BP coffee hack. I'm a 53 yr old woman in good physical shape but chronic health/gut/auto-immune/adrenal issues (that I am chronically working on). Is it that I have not adjusted to the ketones as is being suggested or something else? Ideas?


  • It could be. But it sounds like it is causing low blood pressure for some reason. It could also be irritating your sensitive tummy and causing histamine release. Do you get light headed from eating anything else?


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  • It could be. But it sounds like it is causing low blood pressure for some reason. It could also be irritating your sensitive tummy and causing histamine release. Do you get light headed from eating anything else?




    hello, sorry i quite didn't get it. what is that are you referring at talking about low pressure? than you
  • SystemSystem mod
    edited September 2015


    Coconut oil certainly tastes better, if it can be detected at all, and causes no disturbances in the force.


    Still, it'd be nice to benefit from MCT oil, with or without coffee.. But MCT oil always produces dizziness, nausea, and a uniquely upset though without any threat of vomiting. It's kind of a stomach-twisting feeling. I figure this is related to leaky-gut somehow -- I'm still recovering from eggs (and also some stuff in indian food) being the prime allergens that caused me chronic intestine inflammation.




    is it XCT OIL that one you are talking about or "plain" mct? and please, can you share how is it going now? thank you
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