Lower Yield From Grounds With A Gold Filter?

I recently bought a gold filter (link: http://www.amazon.co...36592492&sr=8-4) and I use it with my cheapo Mr. Coffee drip machine. This is similar to the coffee maker I'm using: http://www.amazon.co...3&sr=1-16-spell)



It seems that the yield on the coffee is much lower. The coffee is less opaque than when I used a paper filter. The water seems to flow over and through the gold filter much more quickly, giving the hot water less time to saturate the grounds.



Am I going about this the wrong way? Maybe I need a specialized coffee maker?



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  • I think I might be having the same problem, I'm going to buy some paper filters and see if it makes a difference.
  • I would definitely use a paper filter. I think your dead on about the water dripping through the gold filter too quickly.



    You want to get the most out of your beans...especially if there BP Coffee Beans.



    I like the "If You Care" paper filters. Here's a link http://www.renegadedad.net/bestcoffeefilter
  • LarryLarry
    edited June 2012
    I use a Breville coffeemaker. Love the coffee maker, but it has a burr grinder for the beans that doesn't grind the beans fine enough.

    The taste of the BP Coffee is so different when the beans are ground finer, using a blade grinder. It is sweeter and more robust when ground fine...at least, to my taste.

    Also, the whoe beans go farther when ground finer.



    So...I grind the beans using a blade grinder and then brew the coffee in the Breville.



    The coarseness of the grind and the steeping time all make major changes in the way the coffee tastes.
  • I have a cuisinart Grind & Brew (http://www.lakeland.co.uk/14193/Cuisinart-Grind-and-Brew-Automatic?src=gfeed&gclid=CK-pkdGBjbECFZMmfAodEx2HOg) which both has a gold filter AND does not grind the beans very fine at all. I've been having the same issue as above. I also have a small aero-press and it's better but I don't have a separate grinder so am having to use the cuisinart to grind, so the coffee is pretty weak. I'll have to see if I can adjust the machine, otherwise I think a separate grinner is needed.



    Not sure I can use a paper filter in the drip machine as the basket is flat bottomed rather than cone shaped, has anyone else tried paper filter with this kind of machine?
  • JeremyJeremy Jeremy
    edited September 2012
    I definitely think paper filters are the way to go, and the "If You Care" brand Tim recommended is a perfect hack.



    Metal filters are good in decreasing the levels of cafestol, but paper filters take the cake. It soaks up all of the unnecessary oils that can sometime lead to increased cholesterol and, even, carcinogenic effects.



    Your coffee maker is alright, but I know aeropress works well too. Dave recommends a French Press, and it makes sense because he is always traveling. French presses are great, but do lead to higher levels of cafestol, which entails an increase in LDL cholesterol.



    Hopefully Dave can chime in.

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  • Is it that the paper filters are soaking up the unnecessary oils of the coffee beans or of the butter?
  • 'Kim' wrote:


    Is it that the paper filters are soaking up the unnecessary oils of the coffee beans or of the butter?




    The oils come from the beans and is called cafestol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafestol , they are not unnecessary because some people say that they give it more flavor. But they are unhealthy as the studies on the wiki links refer to. "increases serum cholesterol by 8% in men and 10% in women" image/ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />



    On the other hand you have the oil called Kahweol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahweol , witch is sort of good for you i guess. image/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />



    So dont go filtering your butter or mct image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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  • I have a cuisinart Grind & Brew (http://www.lakeland....CFZMmfAodEx2HOg) which both has a gold filter AND does not grind the beans very fine at all. I've been having the same issue as above. I also have a small aero-press and it's better but I don't have a separate grinder so am having to use the cuisinart to grind, so the coffee is pretty weak. I'll have to see if I can adjust the machine, otherwise I think a separate grinner is needed.



    Not sure I can use a paper filter in the drip machine as the basket is flat bottomed rather than cone shaped, has anyone else tried paper filter with this kind of machine?




    I have the exact same coffee maker, and was starting to wonder the same thing about the gold filter after I experimented grinding with it, then using the gold filter over a large cup and pouring out of a kettle. Firt half-cup was very dar, then the rest was weak. OK overall but I too am looking for a bolder cup.



    They DO sell flat-bottomed filters for our holders. Might pick some up and see if there's a difference.



    As for grinding finer with the Cusinart automatic grind and brew, I sometimes use it as a grinder only- this is a method to grind finer: Make sure your gold filter/ basket/ everything else is dry, start a brew with no water (so the grinder grinds), then just repeat the process a couple of times with the already-ground coffee. It works when I need to pre-grind the Upgraded coffee to take on trips.
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