Epic Rap battles of history Dave Asprey and Ray Peat

My kids are really into these rap battle history videos on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA-rOls ... ata_player

but seriously I would be very interested in hearing from Dave and the Bulletproof intern their opinion on Ray peat recommendations

from link

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AV ... ssage/5523

Okay, Bruce, this is a summary from my correspondance with her about

what Ray Peat eats (or ate, if he's changed things) and what he

recommends. This is from 2005.

- dairy, fruit and meat are the core of his diet.

dairy for the protein, calcium, and other nutrients

fruits (or other sugars as 2nd choice) for the KAs and EAAs

gelatin to balance the aminos and to replace the need for eating

animal brains and other organs muscle meat as a supplement for

protein magnesium, etc.

- he gets from 120 to 150 grams of protein per day. Doesn't feel quite

right when he goes as low as 100. A few quarts of milk, several ounces

of cheese, gelatin in some form (broth, chicharrones, gummy bears,

etc.), at least a quart of orange juice (or equivalent other fruit),

and the occasional (rotating) eggs, shellfish, fish, and beef, bison,

or lamb, in one or two of his meals.

- says one must always balance protein with sugar (fruit being the

best) because protein alone lowers blood sugar and you need the sugar

to better metabolize the protein. So when he eats protein, he eats

sugar with it: about 1:1 fruit to meat, and about 2:1 fruit to cheese.

- says best to limit meat due to the tryptophan and antimetabolic

properties, but it can be handled if consumed with fruit and gelatin.

He does eat meat almost every day, or just beef or lamb broth When

the meat is aged he doesn't like the taste so he doesn't eat much of it.

- he eats meat with gelatin. The gelatin can be either from regular

powder or from broth cooked no more than 3 hours (otherwise you

degrade the nutrients he says).

- he avoids all fatty fish.

- says chicken should be eaten no more than one meal every 10 days due

to toxins and PUFAs.

- eggs where the chickens are fed corn and soy should be minimally

consumed (for him 2 per week if that), and with one egg you need about

10 ounces of OJ to balance it (because egg protein is a powerful

insulin activator).

- he eats shellfish about once every ten days. Shrimp, scallops,

lobsters have a high ratio of protein to unsaturated fat and help to

insure adequate selenium. Cooks them thoroughly, having known people

who got hepatitis from raw seafood.

- rotates his animal protein sources only because he gets tired of the

same meals, no health reason

- he avoids most vegetables due to their intrinsic (defensive) toxins.

He occasionally makes leaf broth for some extra minerals, but usually

prefers for a cow to process them for him. Mainly he thinks of them as


- underground (root/tuber) vegetables are okay if cooked for about 40

minutes, and fruit-vegetables (tomatoes, peppers) are okay if you're

not allergic to them.

- he avoids all other above-ground vegetables, including greens and

many herbs (basil, etc) due to toxins (even if cooked) that far

outweigh the benefits.

- says that cooked young squashes are generally good for everyone, and

although raw shredded carrots are "nutrient subtractive," it's good to

have a plate of them every day because they lower estrogen (and thus

stimulate the thyroid) and accelerate peristalsis.

- he avoids fermented foods. Stopped using black pepper (a fermented

food, apparently) about 30 years ago when he saw the toxicity studies.

Avoids things like apple cider because it is frequently contaminated

with fungal poisons. Says that the more nutritious it is, the more

likely to contain fungal estrogen and other harmful things, unless you

know the actual materials and process used in making it.

Lacto-fermented foods are carcinogenic. Cheese is okay being fermented

because of the strong nutrients in the milk to start with that

vegetables don't have.

- says reason for people's negative reactions to dairy (if the milk

isn't contaminated) is from either preexisting gut damage (from

gluten, for example) or from a low thyroid or protein deficiency

problem. People who are under stress from low thyroid or protein

deficiency have considerable trouble adapting he says, but with

gradual changes (adding dairy back in) the tissues will adjust and do

what they have to do.

- says to eat liver only occasionally because it depresses the thyroid.

- he doesn't eat fruits with seeds that can't be avoided (berries,

figs, etc) because while the antioxidants are good, the benefits are

less than the toxins in the seeds. Other fruits like peaches, plums,

apples, etc should only be eaten if organic and tree-ripened;

otherwise they have very powerful toxins (if unripe or shelf-ripened)

that can cause gut damage. Melons, cherries, and citrus are the best


- when off-season, says it's better to eat frozen fruit and juice

rather than rely on importation because many studies show that storage

methods and stress from importation and treatments make them carcinogenic.

- with cheese and milk, the feeding of the animals (grassfed vs.

grainfed) is more the issue than raw vs. pasteurized.

- he avoids all grains. Traditional "proper preparation" methods used

throughout the world to render them less harmful involved using

alkaline mediums such as wood ash (as opposed to "acidic" as Sally

Fallon suggests) and "lime" as in calcium oxide (as opposed to "lime

or lemon juice" as Sally Fallon asserts). Research shows that that

these methods will convert some of the tryptophan to niacin. Using

whey would be especially ineffective as well as problematic due to the



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