Female Trial Run Of Rflp

I'm a 5'10 female, SW - 210lbs CW - 180lbs looking to get down to around 160lbs (I don't have a specific "goal weight" I just assume this is the weight that would give me my desired body, I do crossfit and want to show the muscles that I know are there) but it's been such a long journey and now the fat loss has stalled and I'm looking for a kick start. I do extremely well on a high-fat diet, so I have no worries about being able to do this with ease. I've been doing the bulletproof diet with IF and want to try the RFLP. Do any women have tips on this, what worked for them what doesn't? I have my measurements sorted that work best for my body in regards to the morning BPC, but anything else anyone can recommend? 


 


About BCAA, I have a "natural" brand which is the best I have been able to find thus far and have been using with no adverse affects, it also contains L-glutamine but it is flavoured (natural lime flavouring with stevia to sweeten), will this block the full potential effects of the RFLP? The same goes for the magnesium/potassium supplement powder I have, flavoured naturally with lemon and sweetened with stevia. Should I be purchasing "unflavoured"?


 


Thank you all in advance!


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  • I have a hold on my Crossfit membership at the moment, and am not going back for a month! Which is why I thought I would take advantage of the decreased caloric/training needs of my body! At the moment all I'm doing for exercise is long walking and jumping on the rebounder (small trampoline)!


  • I appreciate the concern nonetheless, thank you for the reply!!


  • Glad that you plan to cease exercising when you do this. I am sure that you are well aware of this, but the RFLP is... In the Bulletproof toolbox, I guess it is the equivalent of exorcism in the Catholic toolbox. ONLY USE WITH CARE! Or if the 10-year old spins her head 360 degrees. 


     


    This is very interesting, I hope that I am too late to ask you this, but would you mind keeping a detailed log of how you are feeling? Not a diary of course, but to have some sort of data on this experiment would be interesting. I mean, it would not be totally unqualified to assume that the effect of the protocol will have quite a different pattern of effects in a female, compared to a male. 


     


    At last, as with intermittent fasting, I would stress that female bodies are a little more sensitive, maybe keep this in mind and evaluate whether you should terminate earlier. There is always time to lose that extra fat anyways.


     


    Very good luck to you!


  • I am keeping a log for myself, just so I can keep track of any and all changes so I can't keep a summary of some sorts on here as well! It would be nice to have more female perspective! I will be taking all the supplements, I am using a different form of liver support but I have done my research here! I have eaten paleo (with the odd indulgence, likely once a week or so) for the past couple months, so I don't believe to have an over abundance of toxins in my fat cells however, time will tell! I also see someone who does Biofeedback, too long to explain on here but by all means feel free to look it up, who I will have monitoring me once or twice a week just to see if anything comes up on there! Other then that, here's to day one *raises mason jar of salt water aha*.
  • karenkaren "Say your 3 S's: Star, Smile, Strong!"
    Thanks for posting this! I'm looking forward to hearing about your experience as well. Are you adding menstrual cycle into your log? That has been what I'm finding to vary my response to BP in general, so I'm curious to see how you do! Good luck!
  • Not a problem Karen! I was hoping to be able to pick someone else's brain for tips but just cannot find female experience about it anywhere, I wanted to try it regardless and might as well shed some light for the next female! I'll keep you updated! :)
  • Fourth day in! Seven pounds down, obviously water weight thus far for the main part as I did have some wheat nasties the night prior to beginning! So far I am feeling great! No emotional effects thus far, mood has stayed stable, I have not become a "starved crazy hormonal beotch" as I usual do when I do any sort of fasting. The coffee/butter/coconut oil fats throughout the day when i'm hungry keep me completely satisfied! I have no "carb flu" or any symptoms like that, but I have been eating 80/20 bulletproof with intermittent fasting prior to beginning this. As I am in no way ready to compensate the health of my body for a few extra pounds, I am listening to any and everything my body tells me. So far, it's happy! I am planning on a refeed on day six, but I will have it on day five if I feel necessary. One question I have for those of you more experienced with the RFLP, I was reading the article Dave posted about the man who lost 276lbs in 365 days, in the article they recommend doing small amounts of resistance training to show your body you do indeed need your lean muscle mass and encourage the use of fat stores for energy rather than muscle. Does anyone know any more about this, would it be okay to do a very low-key, not strenuous, lifting (not my usual weights for the lifts, but a lower weight, per say 50% of my one rep max) every few days to ensure my body doesn't dip into using my  muscle? Any light anyone can shed on this topic would be greatly appreciated!


  • edited June 2013

    One more question regarding working out, would a workout (not a crossfit WOD or anything, maybe a tabata workout with a 30lbs kettle bell or something) be permitted on my refeed day, or the morning after my refeed day prior to having my coffee, since I will have eaten protein and copious amounts of sweet potato for fuel!?




  • I'm a 5'10 female, SW - 210lbs CW - 180lbs looking to get down to around 160lbs (I don't have a specific "goal weight" I just assume this is the weight that would give me my desired body, I do crossfit and want to show the muscles that I know are there) but it's been such a long journey and now the fat loss has stalled and I'm looking for a kick start. I do extremely well on a high-fat diet, so I have no worries about being able to do this with ease. I've been doing the bulletproof diet with IF and want to try the RFLP. Do any women have tips on this, what worked for them what doesn't? I have my measurements sorted that work best for my body in regards to the morning BPC, but anything else anyone can recommend? 


     


    About BCAA, I have a "natural" brand which is the best I have been able to find thus far and have been using with no adverse affects, it also contains L-glutamine but it is flavoured (natural lime flavouring with stevia to sweeten), will this block the full potential effects of the RFLP? The same goes for the magnesium/potassium supplement powder I have, flavoured naturally with lemon and sweetened with stevia. Should I be purchasing "unflavoured"?


     


    Thank you all in advance!




    Hi Rosalyn!


    I wanted to respond to this sooner but there seems to be a couple bugs in getting registered for the forums. Sent a quick SOS and they manually entered me in the system.... old school!


     


    Anyway, I was/am stoked to find your post. I've been eating paelo for the better part of 9 months. Just for background I am a 39 year-old woman (creeping up on 40!); gained about 35lbs the past few years. SW: 147, CW: 138. Goal weight: 115... not really interested in my weight as much as body composition. I'd like to get back to 15-20% bodyfat. I'm currently 29% bodyfat. I am 5'5. This is the most unfit I've ever been in my life. Former Division I athlete. I still surf, lift when I can, run. The major part of my weight gain has happened within the past two years. For a lot of reasons, but the reasons all lead back to lack of discipline ultimately. I had PCOS and endometriosis in my 20's. Had a laproscopy and medically induced menopause at 25. That no doubt screwed with the hard-wiring and I feel that now as I'm pushing 40, I'm paying for it.


     


    I started BP IF a couple months ago with xfit, lost about 10 lbs. Got lazy with work and caregiving for a relative out of town. Gained it all back. Having the most painful periods in a while but absolutely do not want to go back on hormones/birth control. After clearing out my schedule and making myself a priority, I did four days of complete adherence to the BP IF last week (weds-sat) with a refeed on Sunday. I lost 8.8 lbs and roughly 1.5% body fat. My handheld bodyfat analyzer isn't accurate but it gives me an idea. I'm going to weigh/body fat analysis every week the morning of my refeed (but before I snarf down a motherload of sweet potatoes in a sea of butter). That way I don't psyche myself out with the bit of weight I'll naturally gain after the refeed. I take pics every morning.


     


    A note about my weight loss last week: I intentionally started the BP IF on the same day as my period (for the guys reading, sorry if it's TMI... actually, not really... for a lot of us, having your period is a bitch and we need to talk about it). Anyway, I started the day of my actual period because I didn't want to be in the throes of raging PMS where I already want to goat fuck Chef Boyardee and Ronald McDonald in a tub of cheese with Burger King feeding me french fries on a bed of pizza. And then finish the night washing my hair in Haagen Dazs. The minute I actually get my period, all that goes away sans bloating. So, I made things easy on myself by reducing temptations and starting on the day Aunt Flo pulled into the driveway. I'm positive that the 8lbs lost last week is water weight... but I'm stoked about 1.5% bodyfat... if that's accurate. I'm going to do that hydrotank testing next time it comes to the gym.


     


    I'm doing light resistance as my main concern is sacrificing muscle for weight loss. I have a TRX in the house, a kettlebell, some dumbbells. After tons of research I decided to try Callanetics. While the video is comical for the 80's production values, I looked in the mirror this morning and there was an ass where two giant lumps of cottage cheese have been. When I gain weight, it mostly goes to the spare tire(s) and boobs. Not in that perky porn star way, either. The girls have become very anti-gravity in their race to the floor. I have no shame in admitting that once I lose this fat, I'm getting those bitches lifted! They have literally become a safety hazard when I surf.


     


    I digress. I did the BP IF last week in order to prepare for the RFLP. I ordered all the required supplements a couple weeks ago. I live in NorCal, so I'm fortunate in sourcing cleaner, sustainable, humanely-raised and pastured meats, fish and supplements. There is a coffee roaster here that does single-blend, wet process, high altitude beans. They're called Verve and you can order from them online, too. I did order the Upgraded MCT oil. On the BP IF I was using coconut oil as the MCT didn't arrive til this past weekend. One additional supplement I've added is an adrenal fatigue supplement called Stress Guard. I take that in the morning, too. I'm also taking Alpha Brain... jury's kinda out on that. 


     


    I bought a capsule maker. Capped all my BCAA's. Trying to make this as easy to stick with as possible.


     


    Yesterday I started the RFLP. Did the pink salt in the morning. Instead of the Glutathione (which is out of stock on BPexec.com), I'm doing an NAC +ALA combo. I used that on the BP IF, too. Easy peasy. Drinking the saltwater wasn't bad and I felt the kick/buzz right away... I also felt the literal kick in the ass about 20 mins after with diarrhea but that's to be expected. Last night I decided to grind and cap the salt. Although it wasn't too gross, I don't want to wake up first thing in the morning hesitating/resisting what needs to go down the gullet.


     


    Felt like a rock star yesterday... was flying and kinda worried about some sort of imminent, nose-dive crash but it never happened. I got a little hungry, ate some butter. Did my Callanetics. And although I am almost embarrassed to do the exercises/play the cheesy video in front of my dog, the shit works. I felt like a boss. Snarfed down some BCAA's after. Did my daily meditation but found myself going on the nod during... like when you'd doze off in school and abruptly jerk awake before your head hit the desk. Listened to some theta binaural beats. Had a tbs MCT oil for dinner. Mag/Potassium. Boom. Sleep.


     


    Rookie mistake this morning. I capped the pink salt last night and put them by my bed so I could have it before full arising like I've read. Woke up feeling amazing. Not hungry. Not groggy. Took 5g pink salt. Completely forgot to take the prescribed NAC + ALA with it. An hour later, light-headed and ready to hurl. Realized what I forgot, took the NAC + ALA. Immediately back to center. Made my BP coffee and feelng good.


     


    Rosalyn, I'm looking forward to hearing your progress, comparing notes, etc. I think it's especially important for women to share their experiences here. I feel confident in my research and what I appreciate and value about Dave Asprey's approach is that he is invested and investigative on how this impacts women... especially those with PCOS and other whacked out issues with our plumbing.


     


    Plan on doing a light resistance workout in addition to callanetics later today. Will keep you posted! Please do the same!


     


    PS - I mentioned earlier that maybe Alpha Brain doesn't work, but it appears I've written a novel. Hmm.

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  • I don't mind novels  :-P ! So far so good, I did two weeks (my refeed days were not nearly as strict as they should have been; first refeed occurred on day five and went into day six as well because I was away with family and got lazy, second refeed happened on day twelve which went much better, I did RFLP for two days after, then went into BP IF for three days because I had an annual camping trip with friends and knew I would consume a few alcoholic beverages and didn't want to shock the system. I kept the beverages to a minimum and continued supplements, lots of charcoal, vitamin C, and salt water flushes in the AM and PM, BUT totally shit the bed in the food department.), all in all lost a total of 12 pounds in 14 days of the RFLP, and can honestly say it was a piece of cake. The only negative was one day I upped my MCT too much in my coffee and had to hit the toilet multiple times.. On day 4/5/6 (depending on the refeed day), I was sick of munching on butter, but that is to be expected. Due to lake trips on weekends, I have decided to do RFLP during the week (Mon-Thurs), then Fri-Sun, strict BP IF (drinking coffee in the morning, breaking the fast around 2pm and having a lunch and supper), until I get to my desired body fat. I will keep you updated with how it goes! On a side note, while doing RFLP I love sitting in my infrared sauna to get a good sweat on but I feel I have energy to workout. Nothing crazy intense, but this week I am going to add some slow paced kettlebell work to see how that goes! 


  • edited June 2013

    Added in light tabata rounds with the kettlebell yesterday, no soreness or increased tiredness today. My plan is to continue the light short workouts with weights then continue with slower moderate movements such as biking, walking, rollerblading, rebounding, using the vibration plate each day. I also recognize I feel much more refreshed after I sit in the infrared sauna for 30-60mins on both RFLP or IF days, I just make sure to drink an extra litre of water as I sweat a lot! I am also taking BCAAs after any workout, and noticed a slight increased in night time butter consumption likely due to the increasing energy use during the day. For any of you wondering, my cycle came at the expected monthly time and flow was the same as it always is!


  • Hey Rosalyn-


    That's awesome! I'm on day 3 and a little strugglicious. Although I just took 20g of L-Glutamine and am brewing some green tea for BP green tea. Had the coffee already this am. i think part of my problem today was getting a crappy night's sleep due to external disruptions. I also did a tabata, light resistance, callanetics workout yesterday. Felt good in that department. Like you, had to eat a lot more butter/MCT oil after because of the cravings.


     


    Did the pink salt and NAC + ALA first thing this morning. Felt ok... a little light-headed. I lay back down in bed before coffee time and started feeling super nauseous.... where your back teeth begin drowning in saliva. It passed after a bit. I felt much better after the coffee. Still lethargic/light-headed. To the point where I'm scared to drive. Fighting through it but am chalking it up to a lack of solid sleep last night. Less than eight hours and up just about every two (sick dog). Took BCAA's after my workout yesterday and have no soreness or anything.


     


    Of course, this is where the psychological part of it comes in. The body is weak so the mind takes over with negative stories. I look at the pics from when I ended the BP IF fast last week to today and it looks like I've gained weight. I'm not using the scale or body fat analyzer til Sunday before refeed... although it's tempting. I don't need a negative number to add to the mindf*ck right now. Just going to fight through today, be mellow (which sucks because the sun is finally out and there's waves), stick to the plan, and hopefully things will chip away with diligence. :huh:


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  • edited June 2013

    Yesterday was rough. Really rough. Thank God I work from home and my toilet is within leaping distance. It's amazing after not having eaten for three days there's still that much stuff to blow out of your system. Guess it's a testament to how toxic I was. I got a colonic once and what I saw yesterday reminded me of that experience. I've renamed my toilet the tar pit.


     


    Pretty much spent all of yesterday in bed. Didn't do any exercise (I could barely stand up without feeling light-headed). Then, around 5 pm, it all passed. I felt good. Stable. Sick as hell of butter but I ate a little at 7 pm.


     


    Today is Day 4 of RFLP


    Had my salt and NAC + ALA this morning about 5:30 a.m. Took only 4g of salt instead of 5. No nausea. No ass blow. Fell back asleep..... hard. I slept til 10 am (that never happens). Feel great. Not hungry at all. Took pictures this morning. Seems I'm losing some love handles but the FUPA doesn't seem to be budging much. I'll be interested to see the stats on Sunday when I weigh and do the body fat analysis.


     


    Been reading up a lot on the Body By Sciene. I listened to the podcast. Ordered the book. There's an accredited BBS trainer about an hour from here. Anyone have any experience, quantifiable results with this method? Would love to hear. Thanks!


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  • edited June 2013

    Glad to hear today has been more successful! I think the salt water takes a bit to get used to and definitely has that "flushing effect" and there is no stopping it! I am continually surprised how much I pass, considering my intake. I was going to say wait till you get through day four and it gets easier (or I felt for myself it was) by day five! Go by what your body is telling you in regards to time lapse between refeed days, whether it be 4/5/6 days between refers, you body will tell you! The time between the second refeed was longer than the first for me personally, I think due to the fact my body was really in the use/burn fat mode, which I cannot complain about! Started off loving butter, now I look at it with pretty much bleh. Oh well! Totally worth it! In regards to working out, NEVER push yourself, good job for taking the day off. Your body will tell you what it can handle, it is already under stress so no sense adding more stress which will only move you in the opposite direction of which we want to head! When it comes to refeed days, plan it all ahead of schedule. I mean everythiiinngggg. For me personally, when I get to the refeed day, all I can think is eating something other than butter, you get one taste of something and YUP. Make your first meal, don't much prior to the meal. Eat as much as you can until you are full/satiated, then stop. Have supper planned and everything sitting out, and again for me any "munching" just turned into boredom eating more than anything which just led to eating junk! I can't give any insight into Body By Science though, I have heard about it from a few people though!


  • Hey Rosalyn-


     


    Thanks so much for the feedback, tips and encouragement. You're a rock star! Today is sooooo much better than yesterday. I took my dog on a long beach walk and hope to do some light resistance/callanetics later. There's some swell in but I just don't feel strong enough to paddle out. I will drown/shit my wetsuit/both.


     


    I think I can make it to refeeding on the 7th day (Sunday). Or, are you supposed to refeed on the 6th? Yesterday I was ready to wrestle my dog for her food but today I've lost interest (kind of like how I felt on the BP intermittent fast). Also, did you find your fat burning really kicked in on the second week? aloha and mahalo!


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