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  • StevoStevo Upgrade in Progress ✭✭
    Wow, what a misguided fool.
  • StevoStevo Upgrade in Progress ✭✭
    I don't think he would bother. It's just crappy spin, e.g. Dissing the "expensive" coffee, when its the same price as other coffee, saying the study already shows low mycotoxins - Dave isn't interested in "low" he is interested in "zero".


    Nobody has glucose or salt with their drink? You have to say the same thing if someone drinks a glass of water too.


    And ketosis? Just sweep that away in two sentences without anything to back it up.


    A truly awfully put together post IMO.
  • Man, you should have just copied and pasted her article. That way, you wouldn't be giving this dumb bitch any hits on her bullshit site.


     


    Here, I'll do it.


     


    Better than “Bulletproof” Coffee



    Written on June 7, 2013 by ButterBeliever in Metabolism MattersRecipes



     


    Your cup of coffee sucks.


    Because haven’t you heard? If it’s not giving you mystically-energizing, cognition-elevating, biology-”hacking,” body “reprogramming,” fat-melting superpowers (and most importantly, if you didn’t pay this guy 20 bucks for a tiny bag of your coffee beans), then well—you’ve got nothing more than a mug full of deadly toxins in your hands.


    At least, that’s what the blogger behind the cultishly-weird following of so-called â€œBulletproof coffee” will have you believe.


    But should you?


    What’s Wrong with Bulletproof Coffee

    So, first, what the heck are we talking about with this “bulletproof” stuff? What is bulletproof coffee?


    You can see the recipe here, but the gist is this: use special brand of coffee that the guy sells at like an 800% markup, add special MCT oil (this is like coconut oil, but higher in medium-chain-triglycerides) which he also hocks with a huge pricetag, then add up to 2/3 of a stick of butter. Yeah, you read that right. And this is all you’re supposed to have for breakfast.


    Okay. There are some serious issues here. For one thing, this is a “meal” that’s absurdly high in fat, with no carbohydrate.


    Now, obviously, I’m a big fan of high-quality, healthy saturated fats. Especially the healthy fats in grass-fed butter. Obviously. But just because something is healthy, doesn’t mean it should constitute the vast majority of your diet (or of any particular meal for that matter). I don’t think anyparticular nutrient should make up the vast majority of your diet.


    As I hope to have already established, my stance is that healthy eating is about balance. Clearly, this bulletproof guy (I’m sorry, but I’m not going to refer to him as an “executive” of anything) disagrees.


    The problem with eating a crazy amount of fat without much of other nutrients, and an abnormally high-fat diet in general, goes beyond the simple principles of a balanced diet. It can actually be quite toxic. That’s because large amounts of fat pull endotoxins from your intestines out into your bloodstream, creating damaging stress to the liver. It’s just another example of why there’s always such thing as, “too much of a good thing.”


    Ironically, the whole reason why the bulletproof guy wants you to use his special brand of coffee for this bulletproof coffee recipe stuff, is because it’s low in a substance found in coffee calledmycotoxins. Funnily enough, he even uses this study which actually shows that the low levels of mycotoxins present in coffee are not a real concern to health, to reference the supposed danger of the toxins in regular coffee. So that you’ll buy his instead, and drown it in unnatural amounts of saturated fat. Swap out small, harmless levels of mycotoxins, for a big ol’ slew of endotoxemia. Nice.


    The next problem, is that this is a lot of liquid to be taking in, without any gluocose or sodium to keep the extracellular fluids balanced. When your fluids become too diluted, this creates a serious stress on the metabolism, which is why I don’t recommend drinking large amounts of water all day long just because you read some article in a magazine that said you should. (My oh-so-controversial advice regarding water is to drink when you’re thirsty. Novel concept, huh?)


    But by far the BIGGEST issue I have with the recommendations in the post is that it’s advised toonly drink this coffee for your breakfast, with no actual food.


    Bad, bad, really bad idea.


    Here’s the deal. No matter how much people like the bulletproof guy like to spout off about how they’ve “reprogrammed” themselves to burn fat instead of glucose, and how inferior those “sugar-burners” are, they’re neglecting to acknowledge the fact that all bodies burn both glucose and fat. No special “programing” required. However, denying your body glucose under the delusion that burning purely fat is the healthy way to go, is a recipe for disaster.


    “It will keep you satisfied with level energy for 6 hours if you need it. And because I’m having it for breakfast, I’m programming my body to burn fat for energy all day long!” (source)


    Oh, cool. So you’re stressing your body out to the point that it uses lipolysis, or the release of free fatty acids in the bloodstream to be used as fuel, which is an adaptive stress response and a biomarker of disease and aging.


    And by the way? You’re still getting sugar to burn in there somewhere, pal. Whether you eat it or not.


    The person who thinks he’s a superiorly-healthy “fat-burner” by eating 2/3 a stick of butter in one sitting, and denying himself any source of carbohydrate, will still manage to produce and use glucose. Because the body needs it. In fact, if you don’t consume enough glucose, your body will literally start eating itself to get it. It’s called gluconeogenesis, meaning that while your body is releasing adrenaline to mobilize fat to be used as fuel, your adrenals are also releasing cortisol to break down body tissue. Like from your muscles and organs. And then your liver has to convert those proteins into glucose to raise your blood sugar. It’s very taxing, very stressful, and not at all an ideal way to get your glucose.


    And it’s bound to happen when you do this:


    “Try this just once, with only 2 Tbs of butter, and have nothing else for breakfast. You will experience one of the best mornings of your life, with boundless energy and focus. It’s amazing.” (source)


    The only reason you’d end up experiencing “boundless energy” as a result of having nothing more than a big cup of coffee with a half stick of butter in it for breakfast, is because your body would likely be experiencing an acute stress response and an active hyperadrenaline state. If this is all you have for breakfast, expect the stress-promoting effects of denying your body its ideal source of fuel for the energy your body needs to expend during the first half of the day.


    Want a better way to do coffee? I have a suggestion.


    Better than “Bulletproof” Coffee Recipe

     


     


    Simply add the ingredients together and stir. When adding gelatin, if it’s regular red-canister gelatin(the kind that gels—learn all about the differences between types of gelatin here), you will need to add it very slowly, sprinkling in a thin layer, stirring as you go, and repeat, so you don’t get clumps. If you’d like, you can also whip up your coffee with a blender (an immersion blender would be easiest) to give it a nice bit of frothiness on top.


    Keep in mind, you don’t have to use these exact amounts—you can use more or less depending on your own unique needs. For example, if you are not used to consuming much saturated fat, your tummy might not appreciate this much at first. Start slowly when introducing foods with high amounts of saturated fat like coconut oil and butter. Cream is generally tolerated a little more easily. And some people simply do not require as much fat as others, so listen to your own body and your own tastes, and adjust accordingly. You also may want to consider the overall nutrient content of whatever food you’re eating it with, to keep it balanced.


    Now, here’s the most important part of my recipe—drink your coffee along with some food!Granted, this coffee is at least a much more balanced beverage than the original “bulletproof” coffee, but it ain’t no meal, honey. Eat. The food. Your metabolism will thank you.


    Why this is better

    Consuming coffee as a part of a balanced meal which provides appropriate sources of energy (carbohydrate), moderate amounts of fat, balancing electrolytes, and protein, is the only way to go. Unless you want to rev up a bunch of stress hormones and and experience the fun symptoms that result, such as peeing every five seconds, wild mood swings, crashing blood sugar, low body temperature, and the eventual burnout from that hormonal high which leads to complete exhaustion and metabolic damage.


    You’ll run into problems like these when you don’t consume enough foods which stimulate the metabolism and minimize stress. The most powerfully anti-stress and pro-metabolic nutrients arenatural sugars, starches, salt, saturated fat, and certain amino acids such as those found in gelatin. This coffee, combined with a balanced meal or snack, can provide all of that. The bulletproof stuff? Gets you the fat, and neglects everything else. And drowns you in unbalanced, diluted fluid.


    To learn more about balancing your food and drinks so that your overall diet is metabolically-supportive instead of destructive, I highly recommend reading a book by my friend and independent health researcher, Matt Stone, called Eat for Heat. It’s a concise and easy-to-follow guide that will help you understand the science behind why all this stuff matters so you can start implementing some simple changes that will make a big difference, fast.



     


  • RodRod The Rodfather

    Im interested in lipolysis...hmmmmm


    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions [email protected] 

  • As they say, let's keep an open mind about everything and have a healthy debate. Love to hear some of the guys on here that know there stuff respond to some of these claims made in the article. Jason?


  • Maybe there should be a new section on the blog called "Here's a stupid article I saw"


  • Maybe there should be a new section on the blog called "Here's a stupid article I saw"


     




     


    Care to elaborate on a few of her mistakes? I'm not that educated on the subject so that I can understand the knowledge behind her points 100% - but I guess I could understand it in layman terms:)

  • She's wrong on a few things.


    For instance, I had blood work done on the SAD, 4 and 19 days into a 21 day water only fast, 20 days into Raw Vegan after that, and then 30 days on BPIF. (which I've been on since then for a total of about 5 months so far). From water to raw vegan my ALT (which is a measure for liver health) increased 10 points. It was already higher than the highest acceptable range on SAD and it increased. After 30 days on BPIF it was right in the middle of normal. Before testing I was concerned about my liver because I felt taking supplements would cause extra stress on it, but nope, everything in my body fixed, except my cholesterol was increased (which is normal on BP and isn't really a useful measure unless you have the lipA test too - gonna do that on Monday).


    Also, I think glucogenesis is a step you enter for a short time before entering ketosis, as you transition, and if it happens again, it would be WAY later, like if you stayed in ketosis for ages; however, the bp diet encourages us to take a carb refeed every 7 to 10 days as man and 3 or 4 days as a woman, so her argument is irrelevant anyway.







     


  • Not a bad written article.  The author demonstrates skill in persuasive writing, and is able to write technically without losing the mainstream audience.  If the sources are accurate, this argument makes a lot of sense.  Let us look into this:


     


    The first section of the article talks about the net gain of toxins and cites two PubMed references:


     


    High fat meals result in endotoxins:


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991637


     


    "Regular" coffee contains no significant mycotoxins:


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7451391


     


    The first article maybe difficult to reconcile (and careful with your dogma here--keep an open mind.)  Where do endotoxins come from?  Ever have a herx reaction?  Most endotoxins are derived from dead bacteria.  The outer cellular membrane release a lipopolysaccharide called lipid-a.


     


    456px-Lipid_A.png


     


    Is that what they were measuring for in the first article?  Unfortunately, this is a binding molecule and is hard to test for, so they tested for reduced plasma endotoxin neutralization capacity.  In other words, they are measuring for IgG, IgA, IgM, apoprotein A, and apoprotein B.  (Just an aside, only apoprotiein B is actually correlative to entotoxin removal, but I will save that for later.)   Here are the questions that we must ask: does an increase in these neutralizing proteins mean that you have been exposed to endotoxins?  Are there other substances that will raise these protein levels?  Dave has worked really hard to design a whey protein that raises many of these proteins.  Does that mean that Upgraded Whey "pull endotoxins from your intestines out into your bloodstream?" 


     


    The second citation was published in 1980.  We did not have a clear understanding of mycotoxins back in 1980, nor accurate ways of testing for them.  Anyone care to post some modern links to mycotoxins in coffee?


     


    The next paragraph is a hydration issue, which is simple electorate balance.  If you are following the Bulletproof diet and have issues here, you are not paying attention.


     


    The author's "biggest issue" is that we are not eating a meal with our coffee.  Are we at risk here?  Our cells are devouring themselves!  Here is the pathway for gluconeogenisis:


     


    gluconeogenesis.jpg


     


    Where is cortisol?  Why is this putting stress on our adrenals?  Someone is misinformed here.  Cortisol can stimulate gluconeogenisis, but according to our current information on this metabolic pathway, it is not needed.  Now, if you are hypoglycemic, then you will have a problem.  Keep your blood sugar stable and you will be fine.


     


    I think that autophagy is a good thing.  It is great for the P450 detoxification pathway.


     


    "And by the way? You’re still getting sugar to burn in there somewhere, pal. Whether you eat it or not."


     


    Yes, and you are still going to burn fat and produce ketone bodies whether your eat fat or not.


     


    Anyone read to the bottom where she gives her recipe for the "better than Bulletproof coffee?"  It is basically Bulletproof coffee except cream instead of butter, coconut oil instead of MCT, fructose instead of stevia, and salt.  So, it is basically Bulletproof coffee with extra toxins and inflammatory sugars.


     


    In conclusion, the author is not debating the use of Bulletproof coffee at all, rather questions the effectiveness of Bulletproof intermittent fasting.  I know plenty of people on the forums who eat the Bulletproof diet and choose not to do Bulletproof intermittent fasting--which is fine.  Do what works for you and do not be so dogmatic.  Keep challenging everything.  Do not let anyone tell you what to put in your body (especially me!)  Research and evaluate.


  • NickatNickat
    edited June 2013

    Im interested in lipolysis...hmmmmm


     


    Modulation of endothelia cells by activation by omega 6 and omega 3 fatty acids......hmmmm....."Amplify or diminish?" now that is a question.


     


    http://works.bepress.com/lwang/26/


  • I can't get myself to read the full article. When you come off as being so biased right from the start, you sort of ward off any potential debate and any credibility goes right out the window as far as I am concerned.


     


    Jason Hooper responded with one of the most thorough, concise rebuttal's that I have ever seen! Thanks for the great info.


  • Moral of story: BPC is bad for you! Drink it with sugar instead :-D


  • InfinusssInfinusss Relax

    I don't like how she came across as a smarmy asshole. I'm open to reading anyone's point of view, and even changing the way that I do things if I believe that he or she made a convincing argument, but the only people that she's winning over by being a sarcastic jackass, are the people who are already fanboys to her site. I also didn't like how she attacked Dave and his nickname. Complete ad-hominem attack. Also, she was lying about the coffee price. I buy it in 5lb bag and it's no more expensive than a pound of Starbucks.


     


    If she wanted to write an objective article, she could have done it without refusing to call him an executive (because he is a VP, after all) and calling him, "Pal" just to be a jerk.


     


    She should have done more research before the article, as well. I've been doing BFIF for over 6 months, and my latest bloodwork was almost perfect. Lipids, cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. were all great. And I've lost weight.


    Massachusetts Bulletproof Resources! (Local BP resources for food/vitamins, meditation, bio-hacking/tech-centers, etc.)

    If you know of a local resource that I haven't listed, or have a warning for known local health scams or bad "BP" businesses, please PM me.

    If it's a good resource, I'll add it to the master-list (I was inspired by suntoucher & Ron Swanson.)

  • Not a bad written article.  The author demonstrates skill in persuasive writing, and is able to write technically without losing the mainstream audience.  If the sources are accurate, this argument makes a lot of sense.  Let us look into this:


     


    The first section of the article talks about the net gain of toxins and cites two PubMed references:


     


    High fat meals result in endotoxins:


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991637


     


    "Regular" coffee contains no significant mycotoxins:


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7451391


     


    The first article maybe difficult to reconcile (and careful with your dogma here--keep an open mind.)  Where do endotoxins come from?  Ever have a herx reaction?  Most endotoxins are derived from dead bacteria.  The outer cellular membrane release a lipopolysaccharide called lipid-a.


     


    456px-Lipid_A.png


     


    Is that what they were measuring for in the first article?  Unfortunately, this is a binding molecule and is hard to test for, so they tested for reduced plasma endotoxin neutralization capacity.  In other words, they are measuring for IgG, IgA, IgM, apoprotein A, and apoprotein B.  (Just an aside, only apoprotiein B is actually correlative to entotoxin removal, but I will save that for later.)   Here are the questions that we must ask: does an increase in these neutralizing proteins mean that you have been exposed to endotoxins?  Are there other substances that will raise these protein levels?  Dave has worked really hard to design a whey protein that raises many of these proteins.  Does that mean that Upgraded Whey "pull endotoxins from your intestines out into your bloodstream?" 


     


    The second citation was published in 1980.  We did not have a clear understanding of mycotoxins back in 1980, nor accurate ways of testing for them.  Anyone care to post some modern links to mycotoxins in coffee?


     


    The next paragraph is a hydration issue, which is simple electorate balance.  If you are following the Bulletproof diet and have issues here, you are not paying attention.


     


    The author's "biggest issue" is that we are not eating a meal with our coffee.  Are we at risk here?  Our cells are devouring themselves!  Here is the pathway for gluconeogenisis:


     


    gluconeogenesis.jpg


     


    Where is cortisol?  Why is this putting stress on our adrenals?  Someone is misinformed here.  Cortisol can stimulate gluconeogenisis, but according to our current information on this metabolic pathway, it is not needed.  Now, if you are hypoglycemic, then you will have a problem.  Keep your blood sugar stable and you will be fine.


     


    I think that autophagy is a good thing.  It is great for the P450 detoxification pathway.


     


    "And by the way? You’re still getting sugar to burn in there somewhere, pal. Whether you eat it or not."


     


    Yes, and you are still going to burn fat and produce ketone bodies whether your eat fat or not.


     


    Anyone read to the bottom where she gives her recipe for the "better than Bulletproof coffee?"  It is basically Bulletproof coffee except cream instead of butter, coconut oil instead of MCT, fructose instead of stevia, and salt.  So, it is basically Bulletproof coffee with extra toxins and inflammatory sugars.


     


    In conclusion, the author is not debating the use of Bulletproof coffee at all, rather questions the effectiveness of Bulletproof intermittent fasting.  I know plenty of people on the forums who eat the Bulletproof diet and choose not to do Bulletproof intermittent fasting--which is fine.  Do what works for you and do not be so dogmatic.  Keep challenging everything.  Do not let anyone tell you what to put in your body (especially me!)  Research and evaluate.


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    Good Lord you are a badass, Hooper!

    Check out my new site on Revolutionary Cognitive Enhancement! http://www.lostfalco.com/

     

     

  • Wow you guys!  This is a great conversation!  


    Agreed with the guy talking about just reposting it here-- she's trying to get traffic.  I also saw a rebuttal over on facebook-- a guy posted the article to Dave's FB page, and then someone made a rebuttal on her page and apparently it got deleted... https://www.facebook.com/bulletproofexecutive/posts/499625923437392


    Adding sugar to coffee that probably has mycotoxins is a major issue; yes she skips over the cyclical ketogenic part; while some can release toxins while losing weight quickly you can help that with activated charcoal... Jason Hooper's post is great!  


    You guys may want to check out a post Dave made about how you may want to alter your morning bulletproof coffee depending on what your goals are: http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/4204-a-not-so-friendly-article-about-bulletproof-coffee/  


     

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