Glutothione...different Types And Ways To Take It.

After Dave sent out the email yesterday announcing his new glutothione, it got me thinking about whether there is a cheaper product(i want to support him as much as possible, but i cant buy all his products...they arent cheap), a combination of precursors for enhancing production, or just a different way to take glutothione.


After some digging I found that there is another product: S Acetyl glutothione that is supposed to stand up to the break down in the digestive system. Anyone have any experience with this? Any cheaper alternatives that are as good as the upgraded stuff? Anybody found a solid combination of precursors(glycine, glutamate, cysteine, cystine?, 


 


Also, I found a link to a youtube video of a doctor promoting the use of a nebulizer to inhale L-glutothione so it will be absorbed directly into the bloodstream. Link below. Has anyone ever tried this? Any results?



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  • RodRod The Rodfather

    The thing is...if Dave's GSH is 8 times more powerful that any other GSH on the market, you would be wasting your money. You could technically just less of Dave's product over time to save you money. I'm going through the same debate, I was going to make my own GSH but this new delivery system seems too legit! 


    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions [email protected] 



  • The thing is...if Dave's GSH is 8 times more powerful that any other GSH on the market, you would be wasting your money. You could technically just less of Dave's product over time to save you money. I'm going through the same debate, I was going to make my own GSH but this new delivery system seems too legit!


     


    Damn you for making so much sense! And i agree about the delivery system. I'm just looking to "price hack" a few of the ones that are pricey and I want to use the most. Glutothione, a few essential vitamins(d3, magnesium, krill oil), and BP coffee are becoming my must haves.


    And the main reason i want some feedback for anyone who has tried the nebulizer is to see if it is impairs lung capacity(like smoking). I do hiit 4 or 5 days a week and don't want to be wheezing like the fat kid in class.



  • RodRod The Rodfather

    lol yea, I hear you but honestly, the only effective way to take GSH is through Liposomes! 


    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions [email protected] 

  • I have Dave's glutothione, and my husband and I are taking it every morning.  Question:  does anyone taste the lemon/ginger flavor this product is suppose to have?  I don't doubt this is a great product; we purchased 2 orders.  But the taste... I WISH I could taste some lemon/ginger.  We take it first thing in the morning and it is not a great flavor to wake up to.  Sort of tastes like bones mixed in to Vaseline.  We now rinse our mouths out with water after taking (on an empty stomach).  


     


    Ahhhh the "price" of good health!!   :-P 


  • There is an injectable form of Glutathione on the market.  I have seen remarkable benefits from it.  No worries whatsoever about surviving digestion, or taste. It does have to be refrigerated. Some people prefer to stay away from injections.  Understandable.  There are options for sure.  Possibly a combination of the two would work best.


  • I take Cellgevity. As far as I know no other glutathione enhancer comes close to it, due to a patent made by a japanese scientist that effectively delivers Cysteine to the cell boosting glutathione by %300. I wouldnt mess with any other type or brand of Glutathione enhancer. Cellgevity is the shizz


  • RodRod The Rodfather


    I take Cellgevity. As far as I know no other glutathione enhancer comes close to it, due to a patent made by a japanese scientist that effectively delivers Cysteine to the cell boosting glutathione by %300. I wouldnt mess with any other type or brand of Glutathione enhancer. Cellgevity is the shizz




     


    The problem is Cysteine is only one part of Gluthathione, as far as I am concerned, Dave's is the strongest GSH available due to it being reduced GSH and the liposomal + lactoferin delivery mechanism. 

    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions Consultwi[email protected] 



  • I have Dave's glutothione, and my husband and I are taking it every morning.  Question:  does anyone taste the lemon/ginger flavor this product is suppose to have?  I don't doubt this is a great product; we purchased 2 orders.  But the taste... I WISH I could taste some lemon/ginger.  We take it first thing in the morning and it is not a great flavor to wake up to.  Sort of tastes like bones mixed in to Vaseline.  We now rinse our mouths out with water after taking (on an empty stomach).  


     


    Ahhhh the "price" of good health!!   :-P 




    Quite disgusting! I sip a little bit of black coffee after taking mine. I would describe the taste as "metallic dog farts"



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    The thing is...if Dave's GSH is 8 times more powerful that any other GSH on the market, you would be wasting your money. You could technically just less of Dave's product over time to save you money. I'm going through the same debate, I was going to make my own GSH but this new delivery system seems too legit!


     


    Damn you for making so much sense! And i agree about the delivery system. I'm just looking to "price hack" a few of the ones that are pricey and I want to use the most. Glutothione, a few essential vitamins(d3, magnesium, krill oil), and BP coffee are becoming my must haves.


    And the main reason i want some feedback for anyone who has tried the nebulizer is to see if it is impairs lung capacity(like smoking). I do hiit 4 or 5 days a week and don't want to be wheezing like the fat kid in class.




     




    Just want to second this... I seriously think Daves stuff is worth the price, the package lists 40 doses but will probably get closer to 80-100 out of it considering I didn't need a full mL to gain benefits (more like a half) and the dispensers are over filled! Comes out to less than a dollar a dose!

  • Just an update:


    I got sucked into a group on yahoo that is into encapsulating and decided to try it out for myself. I have to say, so far so good. I have made a couple of small batches of liposomal glutathione and its good stuff! If taken before or after drinking a little, it definitely prevents or stops a hangover. It was super simple too. just buy a cheap ultrasonic cleaner($30), some non gmo soy lecithin(granules, not liquid, $6) and glutathione(gnc brand is what i could find immediately, $30). I mix 1 Tbs of glutathione with 3 Tbs of lecithin in 8 oz of water. You blend it up and then put it in the cleaner for about 15 min, then its ready to go. I've been taking about about 1/2-3/4 oz shots in the am(tastes like sulfury hell) right before i slug down some bp coffee, which helps get the taste out of my mouth. I also tried a Tbs of MCT in this last batch and it seems to help with the taste. So one batch lasts around a week at that rate and it will keep in the fridge for a while. It's definitely cheaper and I definitely feel great, so I guess it's a success!


    My next project is to learn about the lactoferrin delivery and see how to duplicate it.


    And most importantly:


    I've started making some for my mom(who is in cancer remission and is taking the 5 yr chemo pill) and it seems to be helping her with multiple symptoms(fatigue, arthritis, etc..)!!


  • RodRod The Rodfather


    Just an update:


    I got sucked into a group on yahoo that is into encapsulating and decided to try it out for myself. I have to say, so far so good. I have made a couple of small batches of liposomal glutathione and its good stuff! If taken before or after drinking a little, it definitely prevents or stops a hangover. It was super simple too. just buy a cheap ultrasonic cleaner($30), some non gmo soy lecithin(granules, not liquid, $6) and glutathione(gnc brand is what i could find immediately, $30). I mix 1 Tbs of glutathione with 3 Tbs of lecithin in 8 oz of water. You blend it up and then put it in the cleaner for about 15 min, then its ready to go. I've been taking about about 1/2-3/4 oz shots in the am(tastes like sulfury hell) right before i slug down some bp coffee, which helps get the taste out of my mouth. I also tried a Tbs of MCT in this last batch and it seems to help with the taste. So one batch lasts around a week at that rate and it will keep in the fridge for a while. It's definitely cheaper and I definitely feel great, so I guess it's a success!


    My next project is to learn about the lactoferrin delivery and see how to duplicate it.


    And most importantly:


    I've started making some for my mom(who is in cancer remission and is taking the 5 yr chemo pill) and it seems to be helping her with multiple symptoms(fatigue, arthritis, etc..)!!





    Can you please PM me the group, I couldn't find the yahoo LET group. TY!

    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions [email protected] 

  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭

    But all this glutathione hype is on the speculation that oral glutathione does anything at all to blood glutathione levels. No study yet has verified this. This is why I recommend taking certain supplements like RLA, NAC, and Dave's Protein to naturally produce glutathione and recycle it. I would do this before I ever take a glutathione supplement.


     


    I really think the reason why people feel better on Upgraded Glutathione is because of the excellent source of phospholipids and lactoferrin.


    My book Fix Your Gut, is offered on Amazon for $9.99.

     

    I also offer coaching:  http://fixyourgut.com/health-coaching-information/

     

    Please join or like the Fix your Gut Facebook. Also please add me on twitter @FixYourGutJB.

     

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  • RodRod The Rodfather


    But all this glutathione hype is on the speculation that oral glutathione does anything at all to blood glutathione levels. No study yet has verified this. This is why I recommend taking certain supplements like RLA, NAC, and Dave's Protein to naturally produce glutathione and recycle it. I would do this before I ever take a glutathione supplement.


     


    I really think the reason why people feel better on Upgraded Glutathione is because of the excellent source of phospholipids and lactoferrin.




     


     


    The problem is that the amount of phospholipids is too small, 1 pump is  about 1/4th tsp or less from what I remember. 

    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions [email protected] 

  • John BrissonJohn Brisson The Legend Formerly Known as Ron Swanson ✭✭✭


    The problem is that the amount of phospholipids is too small, 1 pump is  about 1/4th tsp or less from what I remember. 




     


    But those lipids go directly in the blood stream right? Haha. Remember most people are phospholipid starved a little can go a long way.

    My book Fix Your Gut, is offered on Amazon for $9.99.

     

    I also offer coaching:  http://fixyourgut.com/health-coaching-information/

     

    Please join or like the Fix your Gut Facebook. Also please add me on twitter @FixYourGutJB.

     

    http://www.fixyourgut.com

     

  • RodRod The Rodfather


    But those lipids go directly in the blood stream right? Haha. Remember most people are phospholipid starved a little can go a long way.




     


    Yea but if your on BP then you are getting phospholipids. I eat lot's of eggs and to truthful, I can't tell a difference right now but I could check urinary output of GSH! What sucks is I have the cystathionine beta synthase gene mutation so it messes up my GSH but luckily Dr.B has supported me in that way to make sure I'm producing as much GSH naturally as possible. 

    Everything I learned about "biohacking" has been baby steps to "circadian biology", that's where the real biohacking comes in. You can buy a bunch of cool shit to "hack" but if you don't have context, you're not winning. Paleo is just a brand now and too many have opinions, it's on you to read and reread the material to not only find truth but to connect the dots. Much love to everyone who has helped me on my journey for restoring my health, please keep in touch. Feel free to message me with health questions [email protected] 



  • Quite disgusting! I sip a little bit of black coffee after taking mine. I would describe the taste as "metallic dog farts"




    I get a faint aftertaste of lemon but mostly this stuff tastes horrible . My description is that it tastes like axle grease smells. 

  • http://www.winningthefight.net/boards/topic/68/liposomal-glutathione


     



     

     

     




    Posted: 9 months ago Quote #227


    Someone shared on another forum that Liposomal Glutathione is absorbed at same or near so level as IV, might be an answer for many of us but I'd like to hear Dr. T's thoughts...

    http://www.letstalkhealth.com/Liposomal-Glutathione-16oz-p/619.htm


    Info from site:

    Glutathione is one of the most powerful antioxidants that the body produces and is used to bind and remove toxins, including heavy metals such as mercury and lead from the body. Levels may drop as result of oxidative stress due to disease, drugs, aging, toxic chemicals, inflammation and stress. Adequate levels of glutathione are necessary to provide important antioxidant protection needed by the cells, to help eliminate toxic metabolic waste products and to support the immune system.


    The largest impediment in supplementing glutathione to the human is the incredibly poor absorption when taken orally. Physicians have found that intravenous glutathione is amazingly effective but oral use is practically useless. Some benefit can be obtained by inhalation of a nebulized glutathione but this is not usually practical.


    The advent of nano-particle glutathione that is then merged into a liposomal delivery system has produced blood levels that rival intravenous infusion! Absolutely incredible results are being obtained in formerly difficult-to-treat conditions such as Parkinson's and Autism.


    Increase Absorption Dramatically - Regular glutathione is absorbed at approximately 3 - 5%, some emulsified forms around 10 - 20%, the balance remains in the gastrointestinal tract and is lost. Nanotechnology, liposomalized glutathione is absorbed at 90%, measurable in the blood stream. A 600% to 2250% increase in absorption (depending on which form you compare)! Get IV results with oral dosage!


    What Are Nanotechnology Liposomes? Nanotechnology refers to creating micro particles of the active material one wishes to coat with liposomes - in this case glutathione. This requires expensive equipment and considerable time to complete. These micro particles are then inserted into special fat soluble materials resembling micro bubbles just a few millionths of an inch in diameter which are capable of sliding through the gut lining without being digested. The "bubbles" are now in the blood stream and are offered to the cells of the body as needed. As with the gut wall, the cell wall loves liposomes because they are made up of similar material (phosphytidal choline, lecithin, phosphaytidal serine, CLA, etc) and the enclosed nutrients are delivered directly into the cell while the liposomes are used by the cell wall or for other functions within the cell. A huge advance in both efficiency and effectiveness of supplemental nutrients!



     



     






     

     

     





     


  • I am *trying* to take this daily for several medical issues that include heavy metal toxicity, adrenals, hormones etc. (I finished a 3 month EDTA chelation protocol and want to rest from it for 3 months while taking the GSH to support my liver and then go back to one more round of EDTA).


     


    However, although I have taken many other horrid tasting things in the past, I can not tolerate the taste of this. Can anyone please tell me if I encapsulate Dave's Glutathione- will I benefit the same or less?


    I want to take it, I want to at least finish the batch I purchased... but I just can't deal with the taste.


     


    Thanks for any/all advice!

  • edited January 2014


    However, although I have taken many other horrid tasting things in the past, I can not tolerate the taste of this. Can anyone please tell me if I encapsulate Dave's Glutathione- will I benefit the same or less?


    I want to take it, I want to at least finish the batch I purchased... but I just can't deal with the taste.


     


    Thanks for any/all advice!




    I cannot deal with the tastes either. I almost gagged when i put it on my tongue and swallowed it. Nasty. Any tips to get this stuff down would be greatly appreciated. I almost want to return it, it tastes that bad to me..  :eek:


  • I am found a med spa that give it by injection. Has anyone tried it that way?


  • Kiterider,


     


    I have to thank the person who suggested putting the serving into water!  I took a two day break from taking it and then decided to give it a go again.


    I just squirted it into about 1/2 cup water, stirred and took it like a shot while holding my nose.... there was very little after taste!  :-P


    I did it again today and will continue to do so... now that the taste is no longer an issue, I look forward to finding out whether there is a benefit for me or not...


  • Not so sure about the "nano" technology for supplements.  Had a bad experience with a nano Vitamin B.


  • I am now reading that one should supplement with MethylB12 AND folate?


    Any thoughts/advise?


     


    I am feeling very tired and wonder if it is a detox effect?


  • My trick for managing the glutathione is to put it onto the tip of a small spoon, have a glass of cold water ready then almost lean over the spoon and deposit/gingerly "lick" the glob onto the tip of my tongue, then without letting it touch the roof of my mouth while swallowing (this part takes a little practice) drink a good amount of (cold) water so little to no glutathione is left behind.  There remains a reminiscence of flavor, but I've gotten so that it's very faint.  Hope this helps.


  • SystemSystem mod
    edited February 2014

    Y'all serious? Damn. Don't get me wrong; it doesn't taste good by any means. However, it's not THAT bad, especially compared to the old upgraded glutathione formula. I take that jawn first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and don't even chase it down with water. 


     


    Raw cow liver, on the other hand, is gross.




    I cannot deal with the tastes either. I almost gagged when i put it on my tongue and swallowed it. Nasty. Any tips to get this stuff down would be greatly appreciated. I almost want to return it, it tastes that bad to me..  :eek:



  • How is Upgraded Glutathione 8x stronger?


    It's all relative.

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