Concussion Recovery

I was a kick boxer (never competitive; just sparring) and towards the end of the summer of 2012, I suffered a head kick that gave me a concussion. I never lost consciousness (or was even knocked down for that matter). I wasn't aware I was concussed so I continued the sparring for the day. When I went home I started getting the symptoms before bed. I went to the doctor and was told I had a concussion and to rest. I took time off kickboxing until Jan 2013. I got back into the flow of things while avoiding sparring for about a month. I returned to a sparring session and suffered no significant blows to the head (just small taps with boxing gloves) and the next couple days my symptoms returned.


 


A couple months ago I had an MRI which came back completely fine; however even to this day, I am experiencing aggravating post-concussive symptoms. I cannot exercise at all (anything that results in me breaking a sweat at all results in dizziness, nausea and just general feeling of unwellness). I tend to be a pretty active person so this lack of being able to do any training is really taking a toll on my happiness. While I probably won't return to fighting as I do value my cognitive function; I would really love to return to lifting and hitting the heavy bag. I have been doing yoga as a means to feel like I am doing something physical.


 


Has anyone encountered such long lasting post concussive symptoms before? Is there any bullet proof method I could go about to speed up my recovery?


 


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  • lostfalcolostfalco
    edited July 2013


    I was a kick boxer (never competitive; just sparring) and towards the end of the summer of 2012, I suffered a head kick that gave me a concussion. I never lost consciousness (or was even knocked down for that matter). I wasn't aware I was concussed so I continued the sparring for the day. When I went home I started getting the symptoms before bed. I went to the doctor and was told I had a concussion and to rest. I took time off kickboxing until Jan 2013. I got back into the flow of things while avoiding sparring for about a month. I returned to a sparring session and suffered no significant blows to the head (just small taps with boxing gloves) and the next couple days my symptoms returned.


     


    A couple months ago I had an MRI which came back completely fine; however even to this day, I am experiencing aggravating post-concussive symptoms. I cannot exercise at all (anything that results in me breaking a sweat at all results in dizziness, nausea and just general feeling of unwellness). I tend to be a pretty active person so this lack of being able to do any training is really taking a toll on my happiness. While I probably won't return to fighting as I do value my cognitive function; I would really love to return to lifting and hitting the heavy bag. I have been doing yoga as a means to feel like I am doing something physical.


     


    Has anyone encountered such long lasting post concussive symptoms before? Is there any bullet proof method I could go about to speed up my recovery?




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    Hey, what's up Queue? Sorry to hear about your concussion symptoms. They can really linger sometimes.


     


    Dave mentioned using low level laser therapy as a brain hack in an old podcast and a more recent video. http://youtu.be/Sc7NNr8KnYs?t=9m36s


     


    After hearing this, I jumped into the primary research and started experimenting with it on myself (for enhancing my healthy brain). I've been using it for a number of months now and have loved it. Here are some of the studies (many related to TBI and concussions) if you want to check them out.


     


    Recent Summary (best introduction)



    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23806754


    Tramatic Brain Injury (TBI) Human Pilot Study (extended quote below)



    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21182447


     


    UT Austin Study in Healthy Individuals


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23200785


     


    More Studies (sorry, if there are repeats =))
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22793787
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22275301
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22040267
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22028832
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21851183
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17439348
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21691215

    Human Stroke Study 1: http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/38/6/1843.long

    Human Stroke Study 2: http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/40/4/1359.long

    Rodent TBI Study (poor little guys): http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0053454


    Three Study Survery of Rodent TBI: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22807422


    Stroke, TBI, Disease Summary: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3128319/


    Naeser Quote  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21182447

    "RESULTS:

    Seven years after closed-head TBI from a motor vehicle accident, Patient 1 began transcranial LED treatments. Pre-LED, her ability for sustained attention (computer work) lasted 20 min. After eight weekly LED treatments, her sustained attention time increased to 3 h. The patient performs nightly home treatments (5 years); if she stops treating for more than 2 weeks, she regresses. Patient 2 had a history of closed-head trauma (sports/military, and recent fall), and magnetic resonance imaging showed frontoparietal atrophy. Pre-LED, she was on medical disability for 5 months. After 4 months of nightly LED treatments at home, medical disability discontinued; she returned to working full-time as an executive consultant with an international technology consulting firm. Neuropsychological testing after 9 months of transcranial LED indicated significant improvement (+1, +2SD) in executive function (inhibition, inhibition accuracy) and memory, as well as reduction in post-traumatic stress disorder. If she stops treating for more than 1 week, she regresses. At the time of this report, both patients are continuing treatment.


     


    CONCLUSIONS:

    Transcranial LED may improve cognition, reduce costs in TBI treatment, and be applied at home. Controlled studies are warranted."

     


    Check out my new site on Revolutionary Cognitive Enhancement! http://www.lostfalco.com/

     

     

  • lostfalco:


     


    Thanks for taking the time to post and provide the studies. I will definitely read through them in more detail when I have a bit more time! I checked out the video from Dave's talk. Did you build your own? If so, did you follow a guide? I did a quick google search and didn't see any "how to" build guides. 


     


    Thanks! :)



  • lostfalco:


     


    Thanks for taking the time to post and provide the studies. I will definitely read through them in more detail when I have a bit more time! I checked out the video from Dave's talk. Did you build your own? If so, did you follow a guide? I did a quick google search and didn't see any "how to" build guides. 


     


    Thanks! :)




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    No problem, man. I hope it might be something that can help you.


     


    I actually purchased an expensive device ($595) called The Vetrolaser first. I'm about to test much more affordable devices ($50) that I've purchased off of ebay so that more people can try out lllt. It might be a week or two but I'll report back once I do.


     


    Sorry to barrage you with like 20 studies...it's just good to be careful imo when aiming a laser at your head. =)

    Check out my new site on Revolutionary Cognitive Enhancement! http://www.lostfalco.com/

     

     

  • Damn it Falco, now I have to find a way to purchase a laser and associated gear! I too have suffered from concussions, as well as having cracked my head open, so I need to fix up mah brain more or less, lol. You should definitely notify everyone after your trials with less expensive lasers, because I'd definitely pick one up with some goggles if it meant fixing up my brain and perhaps bringing it to a state stronger and 'fresher' than before.


    http://equilibriohm.wordpress.com/

    http://biohacksblog.com/

    Natural ability without education has more often raised a man to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. - Marcus Aurelius 

  • Hm; not sure if I want to spend $600. In Dave's video he mentions that you can make one for $20. He didn't really elaborate on how. Has he talked about it in more detail in any of his blog posts or previous podcasts? I'd be much more willing to experiment with a cheaper alternative.


     


    Also; I would really appreciate hearing your feedback on the cheaper alternative you bought once you have had time to trial it.


     


    You mentioned this therepy has worked for you. Can you provide some context to what made you decide to try it and what cognitive benefits you have received from it?


     


    Thanks! Your input has been REALLY apprecaited! :)


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