Vegetables In Smoothies

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  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    Even if I only eat one meal a day? Usually I just drink my smoothie while my meal cooks, about an hour after I get up. I guess I could do the smoothie later in the day, though.


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  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    Thinking I might pick up some bitter melon to throw in my smoothie after reading Mark Sisson's write-up today. Hopefully it won't make my smoothie taste like crap; the spirulina was only doable today because of the banana I added lol. Also toying with the idea of picking up some Lion's Mane mushroom powder to add in there. Found a source for it that looks good. I know mushrooms are generally not BP, but what do you guys think about something like this?


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  • As far as mushroom powder goes, I think you need to test your own body to see how sensitive it is to mushrooms. I know we stay away from most kind other than the occasional shitake or portabello...maybe once every two months just for a change of flavors. 


     


    I wonder what bitter melon tastes like and if you need to cook it to get the benefits? Let us know...the Asian market always has them and I would love a new flavor and cooking tool!


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  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭


    I wonder what bitter melon tastes like and if you need to cook it to get the benefits? Let us know...the Asian market always has them and I would love a new flavor and cooking tool!





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    I hear it's really, really bitter, haha. I found an Asian grocery not too far from me, so I might pick some up today. Will report back! Everything I've read seems to indicate that it has to be eaten raw to get the benefits. Throwing it in a smoothie seems like the easiest way to do that.

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  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭
    edited April 2014

    UPDATE: Just visited two Asian markets in my area. Neither of them had it :(


     


    I guess the Asian markets around here just suck. They had lots of expired snacks, though. And one of the markets reeked profoundly of urine. So that's something.


     


    Alas. I'll have to search for it elsewhere.


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  • i know juicing pretty much extracts the fiber from fruits/vegetables but does anyone know what something like a nutribullet would do? If no nutritional value is lost then there's pretty much no downside but it seems too good to be true..


  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    Isn't a nutribullet just a blender? I imagine all of the fiber and nutrition would remain in blending fruits and veggies-- only certain fats are damaged by blending at high speed, no?


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  • and whey too with denaturing but you're probably right. just feels like drinking vegetables would have a different effect in the body cause your stomach doesn't have to do as much work to digest it, so maybe it breaks it down less so the vitamins/fiber etc are less potent. or I'm overthinking and green smoothies are actually a delicious, easy way to get in half a days veggies in a pretty filling drink. coconut milk, spinach, celery, green/red peppers, cucumbers, mct, and stevia- breakfast heaven


  • ACH85ACH85 ✭✭ ✭✭

    I think you're overthinking it, so long as you're careful with proteins (long strands of amino acids that you can break) a blender is just like chewing really, really well. Even if I'm wrong and it is damaging something, I know that personally I simply wouldn't eat the same amount of veggies without a blender, so I have to think it's a net positive. Maybe it's better to leave the fiber in longer strands?


     


    BTW if you're thinking of buying a blender, I don't think anyone has regretted spending the extra for a Blendtec or Vitamix. I spent $100 on a blender only to realize it wasn't really going to do everything I wanted it to, and now use my Blendtec 3x a day on average. 


     


    The nutribullet looks OK, but I just don't know how you could get any real volume in there based on the pictures. I start with a cucumber and generally end up with close to a 48oz smoothie. The nutribullet looks like it could fit maybe one whole cucumber in it if you diced it. Plus, it doesn't have different blend cycles, which are really helpful if you want to make crushed ice, almond butter, soups, or anything else where texture matters. And personally I can't stand their marketing. 


  • definitely a net positive regardless you're right about that. I'll invest in a better blender as soon as I can- I'm 18 and the nutribullet was mothers idea..pretty much for green drinks only and a normal cheap blender for other things. I've never tried making my own almond butter or soup but that certainly makes it worth the investment. Thanks a bunch!!!!


  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    My fucking blender broke this morning. I'd loaded all of my wonderful smoothie goodness into it. Then I hit the button and it pulsed for a split second. And then it never made a sound again.


     


    Please god, kill me. Wish I had the dolla dolla billz for a $500+ Vitamix or something.


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    Please god, kill me. Wish I had the dolla dolla billz for a $500+ Vitamix or something.




     




     


    I'm so sorry for your loss. I will have a moment of silence. No, seriously, that fucking sucks. 


     


    You can get refurbished high-end ones, check ebay, etc. Keep in mind that when you buy high-end, they'll just ship you a new motor if this happens under the 7 year warranty, so it is an investment that may pay off. 


     


    Aside from that, I've been chopping my veggies first lately so that I can fit more in, but that's a good strategy with an underpowered blender too. It really isn't much more effort if you chop once or twice lengthwise, then many times at a 90 degree angle to the first cuts, and you end up with tiny cubes that are easier on the blender.


     


    But you know, I'm late with advice, sorry. But everyone else - dice your veggies. 

  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    Might look into a refurbished one! Thanks for the tip.


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  • PartsAndLaborPartsAndLabor
    edited April 2014


    Kale's great, but according to Dave you should steam or blanch it, drain it, and filter out the oxalic acid with calcium and magnesium.


     


    I'm in the middle of a no kale experiment due to acne, so I switched to collard greens and brussels sprouts last week - both steamed/drained, but no cal/mag. It tasted bitter, but was doable. I went to the grocery store today, and they were out of collards, so I went for green swiss chard. Today was about half a bunch of swiss chard and 3 brussels spouts, steamed/drained, and it was actually pretty tasty. The chard is nice. I broke off the part of the stem below the leaf, but it was tender enough that I don't think I needed to. 


     


    I always use a cucumber for water volume and 2-3 celery stalks depending on their size. Plus a chunk of ginger, which I peel with a knife (though the edge of a spoon works too) because supposedly the peel can have some anti-nutrients. 


     


    I like tossing in an avocado - Hass is optimal - for a little bit of fat and a thicker/smoother feel, though I could see why you might not like it. I try to include some type of fat: avocado, MCT, or the not-so-bulletproof hemp seeds, because fat aids in absorbing all the veggies' nutrients. 


     


    I'll sometimes add protein, and occasionally fruit, but I try to stick to the lowest-sugar berries due to the fact that I make sure there's fat in the shake. 




     


     


     


    I'm pretty well convinced Dave is a rare breed that has highly unusual food sensitivities, especially in regards to oxalic acid/goitegenic compounds.  Studies are mixed on oxalic acid-rich foods and incidents of kidney stones, as well as cruciferous vegetables having a negative impact on thyroid function (some studies show the opposite in fact).  I've also heard cooking has a negligable impact on oxalic acid content, like around a 10% reduction, so I really fail to understand what all the hoopla is about.  He never mentions the oxalic acid content of cacao either, which is pretty high.


     


    Peeling my ginger and steaming my kale is too much time and trouble for me.  I use them both straight and feel great after drinking, and have for well over a year now, nearly every day.  I also include celery, cilantro, lemon (peeled), about a 1/2 serving of frozen pineapple, and ice cubes.  I sometimes add spinnach as well (which is off-the-charts high in oxalic acid, which Dave also never talks about and it's like the #2 ingredient in the Rogan recipe).  


     


    I've played around with beets, but they mostly taste like dirt raw.  Not terrible, but not great imo.  It will turn your poop and pee bright red, which can be alarming if you're not expecting it!


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    I'm pretty well convinced Dave is a rare breed that has highly unusual food sensitivities, especially in regards to oxalic acid/goitegenic compounds.


     


    Peeling my ginger and steaming my kale is too much time and trouble for me. 




     




     


    Cool. When I eat gluten and pasteurized dairy I feel fine, but large amounts of raw kale give me acne within 48 hours. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But also don't complain if you get a kidney stone. 

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