Do You Believe In The Law Of Attraction?

SystemSystem mod
edited March 2014 in Gangster Banter

The idea of this thread is inspired by the film the Secret, a 90 minute film in which the hosts posit that we're in control of our own destiny and that positive thinking leads to, among other things, good fortune and monetary success. Likewise, misfortune befalls those who think negatively.


 


I'm really on the fence about it. At times, I think it's bullshit and a half, but they're so damn convincing. The film, endeavoring to bolster its credibility, features a lot of successful people, all of whom attest to the authenticity of the LOA. 


 


If you haven't already done so, watch it before posting ITT. At the very least, do it for the lulz.


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  • RekaReka ✭✭✭

    Mark Divine's book convinced me. (It doesn't name it and doesn't refer to the Secret, of course, but the background must be similar, I say must be because I haven't read the Secret).


    It doesn't get easier... It's you who gets better.

     

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    Success has a price, not a secret.

  • hybridhybrid Cateye vs Isolation

    I read the "War of Art" after JRE recommendations, and this book makes a lot of sense out of what the law of attraction really is. Or at least its a cure for its downfall which is wishfull thinking.


     


    Visualization is about motivating yourself to take action and conjuring the powers of your subconscious mind. You give your brain an objective to focus on.


     


    The downfall is that you can procrastinate on action thinking you can visualize. Ultimately its action that gets you there.


     


    Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation) there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the one moment one definitely commits onesself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things ocur to help one that would not otherwise have occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favour all manner of unforseen incidents and meetings and material assistance which no man would have dreamed would come his way. I have learned a deep respect for one of Goethe's couplets: "Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, magic, and power in it. Begin it now."


     


    Its true that the universe will conspire to help you with all maner of unforseen incidents and meetings and material assitance, but you will have to act with bravery to show the gods that you are worthy of their favour.


     


    War of art is one step forward to the secret. I think its like the how to of the law of attraction. Take action consistently and sleep at night knowing you are taking steps forward in the right direction.


     


    The other big thing is being resonable about the goals/whishes. A lot of people crash hard on this.


  • i haven't brought myself to watch The Secret in its entirety because the 20-minute sample they released when it first came out was nauseating enough to me, even worse than What the Bleep..which i also can't stand (yet somehow watched all the way through). its not that the ideas in it are all that bad, but they are presented in a way that just makes me want to headbutt a soccer mom in the face. 


     


    my recommendation: ditch both of those movies and read Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson.


  • zero33zero33 Thinks plants have feelings.
    edited June 2014

    the movie was a bit fluffy and reminded me of an infomercial, but i thought it was a cheerful introduction to the concept with a not-so-subtle dose of ceremonial magic - "and so it is!"


    reality is merely interpretation of stimuli, so it is reasonable to believe that reality can be changed by manipulating your perception - act as though it is already so and it will be so.


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  • ZenfoodZenfood ɹǝqɯǝɯ pǝɔuɐʌp∀
    edited March 2014

    Yes, I do. Read the book "Ask and it is given."


     


    http://www.amazon.com/Ask-It-Is-Given-Learning/dp/1401904599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395913255&sr=8-1&keywords=ask+and+it+is+given


     


    I'm a firm believer in LOA.


     


    You create your life with your thoughts.


    Let me quote Deepak Chopra:

    "Ask anyone why they want something, ask again and again, and you will soon find out that in the end there is only one answer- you want to be happyIt is the ultimate goal. I discovered it accidentally. And I also realized that everyone has this idea that 'if I had the right relationship or job or if I am healthy or if I have lots of money…THEN I will be happy'. And I realized intuitively that this was probably the other way around, if you are happy you are likely to have the right kind of relationships, be well and healthy, and be successful."


    It's all about vibration. It's like a radio channel. Be tuned in a positive vibration and you will attract positive things. 


  • I am definitely a believer! Check out "The Strangest Secret" on YouTube. I also really like the book "Think and Grow Rich" as well as "The Secret" in regards to the LOA.


     


    Check this out; http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fexpandedconsciousness.com%2F2014%2F03%2F26%2Fthe-fundamental-law-of-attraction%2F&h=XAQGB9ATn


  • i found the book, The Secret, to be propagandish and so was never interested in seeing the movie.  i love listening to Abraham cds and have found gratitude, in every moment, to be vital to my well-being. 


  • HazakinsHazakins Graveyard shift putting me in the Grave!

    The whole time reading this thread all I could hear in my head was..  then I was pissed because its stuck in my head.



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  • SkeletorSkeletor The Conqueror Worm ✭✭✭

    ^^ I didn't even have to click on the damn video for it to get stuck in my head. THANKS A LOT FOR POSTING THAT, JERK!


     


    ♫ wut am i supposed to do... sit around and wait for you ♫


     


    lol


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  • I'm defenitenly on board with the notion that what you are, see your self as, how you behave, how you dream, how you relate playes a big part in what goes on for you in your life.


    Exploring the mind is a wild ride. 


  • MaverickAzzMaverickAzz Powerful

    Woah! I like this guy!!! Welcome to the forums!! ;)


     




    i haven't brought myself to watch The Secret in its entirety because the 20-minute sample they released when it first came out was nauseating enough to me, even worse than What the Bleep..which i also can't stand (yet somehow watched all the way through). its not that the ideas in it are all that bad, but they are presented in a way that just makes me want to headbutt a soccer mom in the face. 


     


    my recommendation: ditch both of those movies and read Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson.



    No sorcery, just science. 

  • SystemSystem mod
    edited March 2014

    That's cool 'n all, but one of the things that makes me skeptical is when they said something along the lines of: "Even if  you go to a crowded shopping mall on the busiest day of the year, a parking spot will open up for you if you envision an empty parking spot on your drive there." You destroy your own credibility saying stuff like that.




    I'm defenitenly on board with the notion that what you are, see your self as, how you behave, how you dream, how you relate playes a big part in what goes on for you in your life.


    Exploring the mind is a wild ride. 



  • yeah how does The Secret tackle sexual fantasies? the porn stars of the world must have pretty busy schedules right?

  • While I am no expert in the law of attraction stuff, I do seem to keep finding its central themes carried across multiple subjects across multiple disciplines when looking for how to be better. I just The Energy Bus and its all over the place in there too. (Really good , quick, easy read BTW. highly recommend it http://www.amazon.com/The-Energy-Bus-Rules-Positive/dp/0470100281) 


  • In my view, visualisation is a powerful tool if used correctly.


     


    The ideas, however, promoted by the Secret are flat-out wrong and engage in a style of visualisation - ones that focus an idealised outcome - with no thought to the process of how that outcome might be achieved.


     


    This type of behaviour has, in experiments been shown to result in poor subsequent performance on task due to reduced energy:


    http://psych.nyu.edu/oettingen/Barry%20Kappes,%20H.,%20&%20Oettingen,%20G.%20(2011).%20JESP.pdf


     


    Visualisation of processes, however, are much more effective. I have seen some of Mark Divine's material and he seems to get it. Rather than visualising the outcome of 'being ripped' he seems to talk more about visualising doing, for instance, pushups - pain included - and visualising what to do when you feel like you're going to hit a wall. That way, when it happens for real, that mental picture and strategy is already there to draw upon without having to think about it. 


     


    That is the power of visualisation, it either creates or strengthens neural connections in the brain so that they can be accessed more readily with less effort. It does not magically cause the planets to align and cause all that you desire to fall into your lap without effort.


  • MaverickAzzMaverickAzz Powerful

    Maybe they just dreamt of dicks since they were children?


     


    Side note: I picked up Prometheus Rising. I'm three chapters in already and I FUCKING LOVE IT! This guy is a beast!


     


     




    yeah how does The Secret tackle sexual fantasies? the porn stars of the world must have pretty busy schedules right?



    No sorcery, just science. 

  • good to hear! that books rocks...RAW was a big influence on me as a teenager. i got to take an online course from him when he first opened his online academy and the course was based around that book. that dude has really written a lot of awesome stuff, inspired a lot of people, and influenced culture more than very many people will ever realize. i'd still call him my favorite author. 


  • I can't answer because when I try this I find it hard to visualize in the first place. It's hard to imagine my goal in a realistic, visceral, and focused way.  To do this well I believe you need a focused mind (mine is okay here) and you also need emotional plasticity -  the ability to snap out of your state of mind and enter deeply into another one, a different one from what you are naturally and normally living in. Great actors are amazing at this, me... not so much. 

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