Nutritional Benefits Of Herbs In The Bp Diet.

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  • Star ChaserStar Chaser Powered by Shred


    I've heard (not verified) that herbs actually have a higher nutrient content than other leafy greens. Their strong flavor supposedly indicates nutrient value that has been bred out of things like spinach. Interesting thought















    Herbs and spices are #2 in matt lalonde's nutrient density rankings, just under organ meats and oils. The only problem is, like many have mentioned, we don't eat them in large quantities.


    But on the topic of powerhouse spices.. Cinnamon and Vanilla!

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  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014


    Astragalus helps with liver function.




     


    People with Cushing's syndrome might well need support via liver function particularly if they are obese and have type 2 diabetes. Fortunately this is not the case.


    However....


    Helping the liver function better might improve the processing of bacteria and toxins being  released under times of stress (low monocyte levels). As a theory is it possible that previous deseases in either parents (genetically passed down to a sibling) or through childhood deseases (stored somehow in the body) might be released and account for low count rates found in a body found today. This might be far off the mark but maybe you could clarify if that is at ALL possible or not. Was thinking about measels, flu, malaria and typhoid, as examples, stored and then released later. Just a thought.

  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014


    Herbs and spices are #2 in matt lalonde's nutrient density rankings, just under organ meats and oils. The only problem is, like many have mentioned, we don't eat them in large quantities.


    But on the topic of powerhouse spices.. Cinnamon and Vanilla!




     


     


     


     


    Powerhouse spices.....totally agree. Siagon Cinnamon in daily BP coffee is awesome. Would love to try the BP Vanilla too but not sourced a decent price here in the UK yet. What benefits have you noticed from their addition?


     


    p.s. Dustings of cacao rich dense nutrients on BP coffee darn good too....but then you know that :wink:


     


     


    Have just tried Upgraded Vanilla and It`s totally awesome and nothing like expected.


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    Powerhouse spices.....totally agree. Siagon Cinnamon in daily BP coffee is awesome. Would love to try the BP Vanilla too but not sourced a decent price here in the UK yet. What benefits have you noticed from their addition?


     


    p.s. Dustings of cacao rich dense nutrients on BP coffee darn good too....but then you know that :wink:















    I use a raw vanilla bean powder. I'm not sure if raw is optimal or not as I'm pretty sure Dave's isn't raw but I don't think there would be a significant difference. The vanilla and cinnamon both having amazing taste benefit if you add 1/8 tsp right into your coffee grounds (if using a drip system). As far as health benefits I've noticed better blood sugar regulation as I used to have a little crash around 11am and no longer have those since adding 3/4 tsp saigon to my breakfast.

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  • I eat TONS of Turmeric.


    It is a strong antioxidant. Anti-Infamity. Anti-Cancer. It is a cooling herb, compared to heat in Ginger. How can you argue with all that COLOR?! (Buy organic bulk from a reputable herb supplier. Frontier, Monterey Spice Co., or Rose Mountain)


    I typically I eat about a tablespoon of it with a meal of cooked cabbage (cooked in butter / bacon grease). That's a lot of goodness! 


    Cabbage, the the way. Safe conventional (peel off out layer). High in sulfur (for detox) as well as Vitamin C.. Cruciferous so good for lowering estrogen. Great go to veg. Cheap & Works!


  • @Nickat: It is dependent on why your white blood cell count is low to begin with.  It may be valuable to do an white blood cell differential to find the percentages of each of the five white blood cell types.  This will give us a better clue as to what is going on.  Has there been any fever?


  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014

    @Swapper Jack`s

     


    Yeah but the Full blood "in range" counts seem to vary so much between testers it`s hard to know what optimized is.

    Take Neutrophil count for instance....the minimum in range can be 2.0010*9/L and have seen the Lymphocyte count as low as 1.30 0*9/L or up to 1.60 0*9/L. Splitting hairs? but markers should be the same right no matter where they are tested and yes that is naive thinking. So from what can be based on general feeling and history of wellness these values might give clues particularly if there is a genetic pattern passed down from father/mother or both (all verified by FBC values) and compared.


    Understanding ''Each type plays its own role in fighting viral, fungal, bacterial and parasitic infections. A low count of white blood cells in the body, called leukopenia, reduces immunity and leaves the body vulnerable to diseases'' etc... no fever here today but would love to raise the security blanket a touch (so to speak) if possible and looking for hacks to do it in a natural way.... 'erbs.


  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014

    Rehmannia is a root herb for disorders of the kidneys and adrenal glands and autoimmune diseases that may also help the thyroids too.  It might not agree with everyone and if you suffer side effects then stop using it. Not recommended if pregnant.


     


    Think that this might make a good herbal adaptogens combo if added to astragalus.


    If anyone has used it please post you findings.


     


    There is mention of adaptogen herbs here:


     


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/11438-adaptogen-herbs/?hl=herbs


     


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/8297-using-adaptogens-for-cognitive-stress/?hl=herbs#entry75111


     


    Will conduct an N=1 on Rehmannia and astragulus.


  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014


    I eat TONS of Turmeric.


    It is a strong antioxidant. Anti-Infamity. Anti-Cancer. It is a cooling herb, compared to heat in Ginger. How can you argue with all that COLOR?! (Buy organic bulk from a reputable herb supplier. Frontier, Monterey Spice Co., or Rose Mountain)


    I typically I eat about a tablespoon of it with a meal of cooked cabbage (cooked in butter / bacon grease). That's a lot of goodness! 


    Cabbage, the the way. Safe conventional (peel off out layer). High in sulfur (for detox) as well as Vitamin C.. Cruciferous so good for lowering estrogen. Great go to veg. Cheap & Works!




     


     


     


    The anti-amyloid and anti-inflammatory properties of tumeric are thought to be effective in preventing or at-least delaying the onset of Alzheimer`s disease. Just be careful about buying too much of it at once and storing it for a long time. It`ll get old , moldy and be ineffective before you know it.


     


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/2285-saltsspicesherbs-and-agebacteriamycotoxins/page-2?hl=herbs#entry86543


     


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/6512-anti-inflammation-supplements/page-3


  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014


    Cilantro is also supposed to have some kind of anti-anxiety effects also.




     


     


    Talking about anti-anxiety and herbs...there is a thread that has mentioned memory, cognition, anxiety, depression and  antioxidants through using herbs in a tea. It sparks some interest for ourselves and might do for you too:


     


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/9220-ashwagandha-bacopa-and-gotu-kola/?hl=herbs


  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014

    When trying to source my herbal Rehmannia and Astragalus found a strange red powdered concoction of various herbs that could be added to water. It`s called TianChi. Used to enhance and improve brain, hormone and sleep.


    Curiosity got the better of us and decided to look it up on the forum and found that there was a thread on it:


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/6246-tianchi/?hl=tianchi


    and also mentioned here:


    http://forum.bulletproofexec.com/index.php?/topic/3328-more-supplementsgear-i-havent-seen-on-here-yet/?hl=tianchi


     


    It was asked in the later thread that they would like to ''see someone do a breakdown of Tianchi ingredient by ingredient to see if its worth the outrageous price''. A breakdown of ingredient to see if they worked and what noticeable differences they made by taking it. Then reflect on the price.


     


    So here we have the breakdown of the ingredients:


    http://pacificfit.net/images/TianChiLabel.jpg


     


    Schizandra or Schisandra (magnolia vine)


    Reishi Mushroom


    Ashwagandha (Sensoril®)                                        http://nutragenesis.com/Dietary-Supplements/sensoril.html


    Rhodiola


    Ecklonia Cava (Ford-Speranza Nutraceuticals Inc)   http://www.eckloniacava.com/about.html


    Eleuthero


    Epimedium


    Cistanches


    Gotu Kola


    Albizalbizziazia Flower


    Astragalus


    Green Tea


    Polygonum


    Lycium (Goji)


    Anemarrhena


    Licorice


    Polygala


    Clubmoss


    Cocoa Bean Extract,


    Stevia Leaf


    Acerola Cherry


    Raspberry


     


    So to save time and costs could anyone that has taken any of the above please quantify the results they have noticed by the addition of any of the above? That would be a start. Thoughts anyone?


     


    Although Rehmannia is not mentioned above (Nic) will be taking it with Astragulus.


    Astragulas first and then the addition of Rehmannia. Will update about that later.


     


     


     


    'Astragalus was seen to have a stimulatory effect on the relative numbers of leucocytes at the p s 0.01 level of significance. The relative proportions of individual categories of leucocytes were also significantly affected by treatment with Astragalus (p s 0.05), such that high proportions were lowered and low proportions were raised. This effect applied to both the variance between sample means and the variance within samples. Specifically, four subjects had above normal baseline proportions of monocytes &/or eosinophils, while three subjects had below normal proportions. In each case, treatment with Astragalus brought the proportions within normal ranges. Thus Astragalus appears to have a regulatory or amphoteric effect on individual classes of leucocytes in the WBC differential count. Furthermore, these effects seem to be sustained over time as the results obtained one week after discontinuing treatment indicate. This finding corroborates observations made by Hou et al''.


    http://www.beyondweird.com/Wicca/astragal.html


     


     


     


    Almost forgot to add the nutrients list too:


     


    Tyrosine


    D-Ribose


    DMAE


    Cognizin Citioline


    Taurine Cognizin (cdp-choline)


    Glycine


    Naicin


    Vitamin C


    B6 (Pyrodoxine)


    Pyrodioxine

    B5 (Pantothenic acid)


    DMG dimethylglycine


    Citicoline

  • The synergy of that stack is not very optimal.  Rhodiola does not stack well with licorice, the algae will chelate the ashwagandha, and too many trendy berries.  I bet it makes a great tasting tea, but I bet we could design something more effective for the money.


  • NickatNickat
    edited July 2014
    Collaboration time (all welcome)


    Working with each other to make a synergy of an optimal stack that is effective and cheaper will be our task then.


    Swapper Jack`s can you explain why Rhodiola will not stack well with licorice? and how the algae will chelate the ashwagandha? We thought that Rhodiola extract would enhance the transportation of tryptophan and 5HTP into the brain and work well with licorice, Schizandra or Schisandra (magnolia vine) and Astragalus. In particular for fatigue, endurance and strength. Licorice seems to have the active ingredients of glycyrrhizinic acid and deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL). As far as we know the glycrrhizinate is the one to keep away from because of side effects etc....are you saying that the Ecklonia Cava will lose it`s effectiveness and decrease the immune system when interacting with the ashwagandha?
  • I typically take herbs in isolation and away from food, since it is out of my pay grade to know how they interact and herbs are just unpredictable.


    Having said that, I like ashwahganda and rhodiola a lot.
  • Jason HooperJason Hooper ✭✭✭
    edited July 2014
    Licorice usually contains about three percent glycyrrhizic acid by volume which affects salt regulation in the kidneys.  According to this study:

     


     

    licorice inhibits cortisol production due to the salt/kidney interaction.  Rhodiola stimulates cortisol expression through ANOVA as observed in this study:

     


     

    The two of these together makes for a physiological mess in the endocrine system.

     

    Ashwahganda has some beautiful compounds called sitoindosides.  There are phenyl subgroups that are bound to hydroxyl groups that radiate from them like a flower.  The ecklonia cava is a species of brown algae whose cell wall contains amplifies that will bind to the sitoindosides.  They will both be rendered useless and excreted.

     

    To create a nice stack, we need to establish an endpoint and work backwards.  That way, we can choose herbs that complement one another in their digestion, metabolism, and biological impact.  Are you still looking to boost white cell count?

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